I have a good friend who like me but for much longer has been clean for some 18+ years. Admittedly he still indulges in the occasional herb, nicotine and lots of coffee (too much coffee). I have been telling him about kava for sometime and I finally sat down with him today and introduced him to some Waka. I triple balled roughly 6tbs in the Alubottle, we went shell for shell with 2 solid washes. It was fun to watch him go through those early aha moments, specially as the KL's worked it's way through his body for the first time. By the end of wash number 2, he was noticeably krunked or in the least, I could sense he felt the calm, he was able to distinguish between the initial euphoria followed by the sense of body or relaxation. I had a blast, I left him with my Alubottle and a 1/2 lbs, to get him and the wife going.