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Question about Product Claimed to be Organic

Discussion in 'Root of Happiness (Online Store)' started by kasa_balavu, Nov 17, 2016.

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  1. kasa_balavu

    kasa_balavu Yaqona Dina

    Hi Tyler,

    I had further questions in that other thread, but you haven't returned to answer them so I assume you stopped following it after your last post there.

    I noticed that you claim that this product is the "only certified organic kava on the planet".
    That's a great selling point; is there a reason you haven't put that on your product label? I assume because there are strict regulations around labeling and making false claims on a label could put you in hot water.

    As far as I can tell, the 11yr waka is not certified organic. Maybe @Bula Kava House can confirm this for us.

    Organic certified kava is produced in Vanuatu, Hawaii, and Samoa, but not in Fiji.

  2. Bula Kava House

    Bula Kava House Portland, OR Kava Vendor

    The 11 Year Waka we sold was/is certified organic, by whatever the Australian agency that certifies organic is called. We didn't put it on the label either. I don't know any vendors selling any other kava for drinking that is certified organic. That's not to say that it's not organically grown, just that it's not certified.
  3. FYS

    FYS Shell Shocked

    I was wondering about this too, not from any vendor in particular but just in general. I've seen it a few times. I'm sure a lot of it is organically grown but getting a 100% certified organic approval in the US can be an ordeal and takes a fair amount of time and testing. I'm not sure how much harder it is for intl sellers growing in a foreign country and then selling in the US but I would be interested to hear from people growing internationally and then selling in the US and what steps need to be taken to get the 100% certified organic approval for labeling in the US.
  4. kasa_balavu

    kasa_balavu Yaqona Dina

    Thanks @Bula Kava House.

    Have Wakaya provided you with a certificate confirming that?
    Because the ACO website listing for Wakaya doesn't include kava as a certified crop.
    The USDA Organic Integrity database also lists Wakaya crops without a mention of kava.

    Wakaya Perfection sell a number of products, which are all advertised as organic

    Their kava however, has never been labelled organic:

    Wakaya Perfection organic certificate on the ACO website:

    Perhaps there is a typo on the websites and Tyler has an actual certificate that includes kava.

    I'm hoping he pops in to clarify the situation.

    BTW @Bula Kava House, just a heads-up... since my post here asking for your input on this as well, the forum rules have changed and vendors are now prohibited from posting in other vendors' forums.
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  5. Bula Kava House

    Bula Kava House Portland, OR Kava Vendor

  6. Henry

    Henry . Moderator The Kava Society of New Zealand

    This is the certificate that Wakaya was using and displaying last year. No kava here, so unless things have changed in 2016, the kava is not "certified organic", but I guess it's still very likely to be organic.

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  7. Henry

    Henry . Moderator The Kava Society of New Zealand

    They also have another certificate from a NZ-based organisation. According to this certificate their sea salt is organic, but maybe this means that the whole farm is organic? I just don't know how these things work.

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  8. kasa_balavu

    kasa_balavu Yaqona Dina

    Good to know. Care to share it?
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