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RoH Fresh Frozen Kava

Discussion in 'Kava Lounge' started by _byron, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. Kapmcrunk

    Kapmcrunk The Kaptain of Crunk KavaForums Founder

    That is a seriously good question Edward. I've looked and I don't see the normal evidence of a kava bar selling kratom. Either they've done an immaculate job concealing it to just this forum and me, or they're seriously 100% kava now. I'd like someone to confirm or refute.

    Now, back to that frozen kava. I do hope they've secured an, at least, semi-regular supply. I'll aim to always have some in case a kava drinking friend stops by.
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  2. sɥɐʞɐs

    sɥɐʞɐs ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ Review Maestro

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    Mine arrived thawed, but still cool. I happen to be on antibiotics right now anyway, so if there is any bacterial growth, I’ll probably be alright.
  3. PsyGuru

    PsyGuru Kava Enthusiast

    I live in texas where it is warm and we use the AC. Is there anything I should do if I want to order this?

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  4. Intrepidus_dux

    Intrepidus_dux Kava Enthusiast

    That's weirdly convienient! Sometimes those less than awesome things are a plus in some ways eh?
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  5. Edward

    Edward Aluballin' in the UK Kava Vendor

    I'll ask and find out.
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  6. sɥɐʞɐs

    sɥɐʞɐs ‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾ Review Maestro

    Well, I mixed the whole pound of fresh root in about 1.3 Liters of water...drank about half of it and surprisingly got very little effect from it.
    Then when I went to bed, I got stuck in weird, uncomfortable, hallucinatory, hypnagogic half-sleep for much of the night...so today I feel a bit off and foggy. Not really looking forward to finishing it...but I know I'm gooonnaaaaa ::chugger::
  7. Henry

    Henry Kava Enthusiast Moderator The Kava Society of New Zealand

    Do you know what cultivar this is?
  8. Zaphod

    Zaphod Kava Enthusiast

    I like the idea of fresh frozen kava....but I think we may want to be a bit cautious here. We know kava once prepared can go bad very quickly. I would like to know when in the process is the kava RoH supplying getting frozen and how is it processed ahead of time. I am also a bit surprised it is not being shipped with a cold pack to keep it frozen (or nearly so). I would hate for people to get sick and blame it on the kava versus the process.
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  9. _byron

    _byron Member

    I made the full pound in 1.5 L then second washed another 1.5 L. I was very krunk but not anything more notable then dried kava krunk. The taste is the biggest kicker to fresh kava in this case.

    Btw I feel fantastic this morning an just woke after sleeping 12 hours hahaha
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  10. Henry

    Henry Kava Enthusiast Moderator The Kava Society of New Zealand

    Fresh kava can spoil very quickly. On the one hand it can oxidise/go sour. On the other hand, it can get spoiled due to bacterial growth (without any noticable alteration in flavour/taste). It is important beyond measure to prepare it in the hygenic conditions, but also to keep it cool at all times. Standard food safety rules apply: it should not sit at room temp for longer than 2 hours (in total). Yes, many people will get away with more than 2h at room temp (just like most people will be fine after eating food that sat at room temp for several hours), but some may not.
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  11. Kapmcrunk

    Kapmcrunk The Kaptain of Crunk KavaForums Founder

    Cutting in for Shakas. It's Mahakea.
  12. BulamamatoNCIRVCKKPC

    BulamamatoNCIRVCKKPC Learn to love me, assemble the ways...

    Mine came still cold but not sure if it was frozen. I was on my way out so I put it straight in the fridge. Later, I froze it. I then took it out yesterday (put it into the fridge) to thaw it for today. I only made 4 cups from 8 tbsp. So, I threw it back in the freezer and the prepped grog in the fridge. The taste is smooth and the effects are heavy, which I like. I may not finish it now that I'm paranoid that it could be bad. I quite like it and the experience, though. Smooth and heavy.
  13. Henry

    Henry Kava Enthusiast Moderator The Kava Society of New Zealand

    You should only thaw it in the fridge. This way you ll be able to use it for much longer
  14. BulamamatoNCIRVCKKPC

    BulamamatoNCIRVCKKPC Learn to love me, assemble the ways...

    How long does it last in the fridge? It's currently in my freezer again (the unused portion).
  15. Henry

    Henry Kava Enthusiast Moderator The Kava Society of New Zealand

    The general food safety rules in NZ specify that a product capable of sustaining microbial growth at room temp should not be kept at room temp for longer than 2 hours (IN TOTAL - so if you keep it at room temp for 1h one day, then freeze it again and then thaw it again and keep it for another 1h then that's it, but please note that if you thaw your product outside of the fridge, this time should also count towards your 2h limit as some bits of the product will be at temp above 4C). Inside the fridge it should be able to stay safe for up to 3-5 days (provided it was clean to begin with), but you may want to vacuum seal it to prevent it getting sour tasting.

    These are rather conservative guidelines that food businesses are required to adhere to. Obviously lots of people can handle products that have been exposed to room temp for longer, but if you want to err on the side of caution and/or have low immunity/fragile stomach then it's best to adhere to the 2h rule.
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  16. Henry

    Henry Kava Enthusiast Moderator The Kava Society of New Zealand

    The benefit of thawing the product inside the fridge is that it can stay safe for days, rather than just a couple of hours. If you thaw it fully at room temp, it should not be refrozen and consumed again (in my view).
  17. Kapmcrunk

    Kapmcrunk The Kaptain of Crunk KavaForums Founder

  18. BulamamatoNCIRVCKKPC

    BulamamatoNCIRVCKKPC Learn to love me, assemble the ways...

    Thank you! It’s been in the fridge or freezer the entire time. I only thawed it in the fridge but put it in the freezer once I took what I could use today. I hope it keeps for awhile there. It’s not my favorite kava anyway but not horrible I Guess.. anyway, no kava shall be wasted (hopefully).
  19. BulamamatoNCIRVCKKPC

    BulamamatoNCIRVCKKPC Learn to love me, assemble the ways...

  20. Kapmcrunk

    Kapmcrunk The Kaptain of Crunk KavaForums Founder

    Hanakapi'ai has trended towards being a more sedative kava. Per the 19 reviews of it here. It also received 4 1/2 shells as an average rating.

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    (From GHK's Product Reviews of the strain)
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