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We are all wimps and it seems that kava is safer than water

Discussion in 'In-Depth Kava Discussion' started by Henry, Oct 13, 2016.

  1. Henry

    Henry . Moderator The Kava Society of New Zealand

    Just reading an article about a guy who experienced some "confusion" following a "12 hour kava binge" on top of his regular "40 bowls per day" consumption. The doctor sees it as evidence of kava being potentially dangerous. I personally see it as yet another example of how safe kava is. Just look at this guy's kava consumption:

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    :jawdrop:

    Let me repeat it: a 12h "kava binge" on top of "his normal daily consumption of 40 bowls daily for the last 14 years". Wow. I bet drinking 40 bowls of water per day could cause some serious health issues.
    :D
    Interestingly (but not surprisingly) his liver was in good health and he was generally considered to be a "healthy and peaceful" individual. One concern was actually that he was quite slim. The doctor notes that it's one of the most common side-effects of kava: heavy kava drinkers are rarely fat.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1442-2026.2000.00107.x/abstract
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  2. Rick.Sanchez

    Rick.Sanchez Kava Enthusiast

    Just out of curiosity, have any kava drinkers noticed any beneficial or deleterious effects on weight?
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  3. Kojo Douglas

    Kojo Douglas Kava Enthusiast

    Beneficial impacts on weight for me. I've been drinking Kava daily for about six weeks now and lost about 8 pounds. It's likely due to me cutting my beer intake by 90% and drinking Kava on an empty stomach and having a light dinner.
  4. Rick.Sanchez

    Rick.Sanchez Kava Enthusiast

    That's interesting. The more i learn about other cultures and their intoxicants, the more i hate alcohol and western culture's obsession over it
  5. ThePiper

    ThePiper Kava Enthusiast

    Yup alcohol is mostly bullshit unless we are talking about traditional brews and infusions, that can get interesting. Ive always been on the slim side but i do feel that kava prevents weight gain. Very curious as to why though. 40 bowls a day of kava seems a bit much, if he sleeps at least 8 hours a day (with that much kava you would have to!) thats almost two and a half shells every waking hour. I guess that doesnt mean much due to the variability of strength with grog preference. Do tongans make their kava weaker like fijians or stronger like vanuatu people
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  6. Henry

    Henry . Moderator The Kava Society of New Zealand

    Tongans use a lot of water. But 40 bowls per day is indeed a large amount. It's roughly 6 LITRES of additional liquid per day. And on that particular day he had his 6 litres, plus went to a local kalapu (kava club) to drink kava non-stop for 12h. So he might have had close to 20 litres of kava on that day + unknown quantity of other foods/beverages. Apparently it takes just 6 litres of water to kiill an average person (http://www.medicaldaily.com/water-intoxication-just-how-much-h2o-does-it-take-kill-person-312958). Actually, all of the symptoms observed in the case of that Tongan guy correspond well with water toxicity that is known for causing: "headache, fatigue, nausea, vomiting, frequent urination, and mental disorientation"
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  7. LoGun4340

    LoGun4340 Member

    Tongan Man is the Florida man of the Pacific?
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  8. verticity

    verticity I'm interested in things

    I'm really confused. The guy is literally drinking kava all the time already. How is it possible for him to "binge"? In order to "binge" you have to have not been doing a thing for an amount of time, and then do a lot of it. It. Makes. No. Sense.
  9. verticity

    verticity I'm interested in things

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  10. Today a Florida Man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.
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  11. @Rick.Sanchez, on kava and weight, here is my bottom line. I drink kava to cut way down on alcohol. When I drink alcohol, I eat too much and then later go downstairs to binge on potato chips. When I do kava, I eat a moderate amount that is satisfying. Then I drink plenty of water and have no need for additional snacks. So if Kava helps reduce bad eating habits, then it can indeed help you maintain a healthy weight.
  12. ThePiper

    ThePiper Kava Enthusiast

    Well you obviously haven't seen this guy yet...
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  13. iglooNakamal

    iglooNakamal Kava Enthusiast

    Coming home from work and chugging a bunch of kava in super sessions is definitely introducing a lot of water into my system. Tho this is clearly better than alcohol, I often wonder if consuming so much water may have a negative impact on my migraines do to electrolyte levels/hypohydration followed by early morning dehydration and irregular sleeping patterns from waking up to pee. Hearing about this guy makes me really want to start being a Kava day drinker... Just not so intense...
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  14. boxcar beatnik

    boxcar beatnik Kava Enthusiast

    4-5 shells in the first two hours of being awake is the best. It coffee all morning and 6 shells at lunch. I'm really ready to get my package. Why did i let myself run out
  15. iglooNakamal

    iglooNakamal Kava Enthusiast

    I need a GHK subscription.
    I have 2 cases of coconut water delivered every month, going to use that for the first time with my prep tonight.
    I also have really grown to like a fresh squeezed lemon and lime in my Kava.
  16. Jerome

    Jerome Kava Enthusiast

    I'm a Florida man and I approve of this thread.
  17. Myk

    Myk Kava Enthusiast

    I'm a lard ass that drinks kava every day but , I was a lard ass before I started drinking kava as well . Being fat is much better with kava!
  18. Kojo Douglas

    Kojo Douglas Kava Enthusiast

  19. Edward

    Edward Aluballin' in the UK Kava Vendor

  20. Edward

    Edward Aluballin' in the UK Kava Vendor

    Florida Man Impersonating a Police Officer Pulls Over Real Cops

    Say no more.
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