A non kava related question on time.

[krunkedout]

Well I was wondering if I could get some input from you guys for some research I'm doing. The research is on time, unfortunately I can't say exactly what it is about time that I am researching. I just need to know what your view of time is. Do you believe in Einstein with his lovely idea of two spatial cones pressed end to end with a flat plane between them? Or do you view it in another way? And also, have you ever noticed any differences in how time feels? Like have the days felt significantly longer or shorter than the previous day, things like that. Thanks guys!!

 

[Prince Philip]

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[kl.new2kava]

I'd recommend reading A Brief History of Time by Steven Hawkins, that addresses the idea of time and space quite well in language that isn't hard to grasp. It's hard for me to discuss a topic like time without speaking of time phase derivatives and such. I actually really like the idea of string theory as well as quantum chaos.

 

[krunkedout]

I'd recommend reading A Brief History of Time by Steven Hawkins, that addresses the idea of time and space quite well in language that isn't hard to grasp. It's hard for me to discuss a topic like time without speaking of time phase derivatives and such. I actually really like the idea of string theory as well as quantum chaos.

string theory was very interesting for me a couple of years ago, but now it just doesn't ring with the same tune with me, even though it's starting to become so commonly accepted.

 

[The Kap'n]

What I can't figure out on my own, Morgan Freeman teaches me from Beyond The Wormhole. Quite an interesting one they had on the concept of time too.

 

[krunkedout]

What I can't figure out on my own, Morgan Freeman teaches me from Beyond The Wormhole. Quite an interesting one they had on the concept of time too.

I love that show as well. And also, what I'm looking for lies more along the lines of the psychological effects of time.

 

[krunkedout]

I love the diverse pool of ideas that this forum has. This is literally the only place where I have seen bothe creationists and atheists coexisting in a single place without trying to bash each others ideas. Mankind united by the bonds of kava.

 

[kl.midas]

I think a lot about time. I wonder if every moment in the history (and future) of the universe exists concurrently. Kind of like a massive hard drive full of every piece of information in the universe past, present and future, that exists always and forever. Then at the same time our minds are like video players with only a play button (no pause, rewind or forward), so we can only access this data in one direction even though it is all ever present. The alternative is that every moment is gone forever once it's past. That's too depressing a thought for me because I don't believe in an afterlife, yet I need to believe that somehow, somewhere the people that I've loved and lost still exist somewhere, and always will.



I didn't take any substances today It's just something I think about sometimes when I reminisce about the people who are gone.

 

[Nihilist]

Time is a tyrant.



I have noticed time feeling like it goes fast or slower. I believe that's really common though. Usually doing something fun = faster/boring =slower. Once again I think it's a really common thing.

Some substances will have the above effect too.



As you age time can seem to quicken the older you get. There was a science article I read on it.

 

[kl.midas]

Time is a tyrant.



I have noticed time feeling like it goes fast or slower. I believe that's really common though. Usually doing something fun = faster/boring =slower. Once again I think it's a really common thing.

Some substances will have the above effect too.



As you age time can seem to quicken the older you get. There was a science article I read on it.

Yea, I remember reading an article about that too. It definitely rings true with me. When I was a kid a year seemed to last forever. Nowadays they seem to speed by almost unnoticed.
I tend to agree with this guy. He says that time seems to go slower when you're a kid because you're having so many new and unique experiences that are making lasting impressions and creating life-long memories. When you get to a certain age, life can become a bit more like groundhog day, so most days are completely forgettable!
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cutting-edge-leadership/201004/why-time-goes-faster-you-get-older

 

[JonT]

I'd recommend reading A Brief History of Time by Steven Hawkins, that addresses the idea of time and space quite well in language that isn't hard to grasp. It's hard for me to discuss a topic like time without speaking of time phase derivatives and such. I actually really like the idea of string theory as well as quantum chaos.

string theory was very interesting for me a couple of years ago, but now it just doesn't ring with the same tune with me, even though it's starting to become so commonly accepted.

It isn't really. It's become popular in popular science because it's flash and sexy. It's not "commonly accepted" within physics. 
Days move faster and slower depending on how many new experiences you fit into them. That's my take on it and it seems to work out.

 

[krunkedout]

I'd recommend reading A Brief History of Time by Steven Hawkins, that addresses the idea of time and space quite well in language that isn't hard to grasp. It's hard for me to discuss a topic like time without speaking of time phase derivatives and such. I actually really like the idea of string theory as well as quantum chaos.

string theory was very interesting for me a couple of years ago, but now it just doesn't ring with the same tune with me, even though it's starting to become so commonly accepted.

It isn't really. It's become popular in popular science because it's flash and sexy. It's not "commonly accepted" within physics. 
Days move faster and slower depending on how many new experiences you fit into them. That's my take on it and it seems to work out.

that's refreshing to hear. I do believe in parallel universes, but not like string theory says. I believe in psychological parallel universes. Since the only way interact with our surroundings is through our sensors, and those are controlled by the brain, our minds can manipulate those sensors to create a parallel universe entirely of our own making. In other words, you can just go mad; but who's to say it is or isn't real? I mean, for all we know, the dream work could be reality, and when we go to sleep, we wake up in the dream world and visa versa.

 

[krunkedout]

I'd recommend reading A Brief History of Time by Steven Hawkins, that addresses the idea of time and space quite well in language that isn't hard to grasp. It's hard for me to discuss a topic like time without speaking of time phase derivatives and such. I actually really like the idea of string theory as well as quantum chaos.

I ended up purchasing a book called "cycles of time" instead of Mr. Hawking's book. Seems to be a bit more of the equations and such that he uses to prove his point.

 

[kl.TylerKTB]

Time is the 4th dimension, you are stuck in the third dimension, able to move about within the three dimensions, up down, side to side, and forward backwards - You are however, bound by time and therefore stuck in the present experience, unable to travel forward or backwards in time. Much like an antfarm artificially creates a 2 dimensional world for ants who exist in the third dimension; they can travel up down and side to side, but have the boundaries of the glass that they are stuck between from keeping them from traveling 3 dimensionally. Rather than having physical walls like the antffarm, the 4th dimension of time is actually just an illusion which binds us- The human brain was programmed for survival mode and has thus created the illusion of time to give points of reference to the three dimensional world which we must survive within. To prove this, you can point a telescope into space and actually look back in time - We are already living within the 4th dimension, but our minds create the artificial barrier and thus bind us to the present. We simply haven't found much of a use for this on a daily basis, or its a skill that has not been taught to us, or perhaps the modern human brain has been re-wired by social programming and fluoride to not to be able to travel within time. The ascended masters of the ancient world spoke tomes on this subject and began mystery schools which address these exact concepts. The schools and the knowledge that they taught has been lost over... "time" ha how ironic is that?



The mind is very much like a radio tuner and can tune into various dimensions.  The dial is simply set to the here and now.  Things that tend to change the dial for me are meditation, and plant compounds.  I've lived alternate lifetimes in minutes and woken up quite shaken.  I mean like an alternate life as a stock broker in New York with a wife, kids, a house, a different family etc.  Literally all of the events that may pass in a lifetime were experienced. I came out of the experience with a case of severe identity crisis for a day or so because it was too real not to be reality.  Ayahuasca is a hell of a drug lol.

 

[krunkedout]

Time is the 4th dimension, you are stuck in the third dimension, able to move about within the three dimensions, up down, side to side, and forward backwards - You are however, bound by time and therefore stuck in the present experience, unable to travel forward or backwards in time. Much like an antfarm creates a 2 dimensional world for ants, they can travel up down and side to side, but have the boundaries of the glass that they are stuck between from keeping them from traveling 3 dimensionally. Furthermore, this 4th dimension of time is actually just an illusion which binds us- The human brain was programmed for survival mode and has thus created the illusion of time to give reference to the three dimensional world which we must survive within. To prove this, you can point a telescope into space and actually look back in time. We simply haven't found much of a use for this on a daily basis, or its a skill that has not been taught to us, or perhaps the modern human brain has been re-wired by programming and fluoride not to be able to travel within time. The ascended masters of the ancient world spoke tomes on this subject and began mystery schools which address these exact concepts. The schools and the knowledge that they teach has been lost over "time" ha how ironic is that?

very similar to my opinions. I believe that time is 100% perception and doesn't actually exist. I think that all moments happen at the exact same moment and there is now "flow" like people think and there is no connection to the fabric of space. I actually believe that time travel is possible if you can expand your mind enough and realize that time doesn't exist.

 

[KavaKrunked]

Why people select "time" as one of these concepts to debate like they do the "existence of God" is beyond me.



Look, the pencil I dropped on the floor 5 minutes ago is not dropping on the floor now, nor will it be in the future. Time is a liner ordering of events. Clearly it is a human construct, conceived so that we may better understand our surroundings, yet it does exist in actuality.



If time didn't exist, neither would velocity. v=d/t. So if time doesn't exist, than neither does physical movement.



Looking into space through a telescope is not looking backwards in time. You are looking at photons in the present, which took time to travel from where they originated to your eye.



Taking psychedelic drugs that cause sensory hallucinations does not tune your brain into another dimension. They make you hallucinate.



The only time I'm concerned with is Kava-time, which is right about now...

 

[krunkedout]

Why people select "time" as one of these concepts to debate like they do the "existence of God" is beyond me.



Look, the pencil I dropped on the floor 5 minutes ago is not dropping on the floor now, nor will it be in the future. Time is a liner ordering of events. Clearly it is a human construct, conceived so that we may better understand our surroundings, yet it does exist in actuality.



If time didn't exist, neither would velocity. v=d/t. So if time doesn't exist, than neither does physical movement.



Looking into space through a telescope is not looking backwards in time. You are looking at photons in the present, which took time to travel from where they originated to your eye.



Taking psychedelic drugs that cause sensory hallucinations does not tune your brain into another dimension. They make you hallucinate.



The only time I'm concerned with is Kava-time, which is right about now...

ah but how can you be sure that any of your surroundings are real? Perhaps the entire universe is one big hallucination. There's no way to prove or disprove it. You could be a manifestation of my mind, and I could be a manifestation of yours. And of course velocity would no longer exist mathematically because we have designed our idea of velocity to require time.

 

[August West]

Dmt caused me to question my reality, my identity, my everything. I wouldn't call the experience a hallucination, for I truely felt I was taken somewhere else, not like the common distortion of reality one gets from psychedelics. I felt feelings and had senses that i'd never experienced before. Like having no physical body, but knowing i was made from the fabric of the universe, and I was part of the equation. Also being aware of absolutely everything going on was connected. Exploding through the universe at incredible speeds. I was depressed and confused for months after the experience, due to the fact I was now questioning everything that I felt I already understood. I don't wanna sound like a hippie or anything, but the experience changed me in so many ways, and it was amazing. But i'll never do it again. I feel we as a human race are just beginning to scratch the surface of comprehension. Every couple years,:we make huge leaps in technology, science, and life expectancy. We now accept certain beliefs as being plausible, that we would have scoffed at ten years ago. We now have implanted devices into mice, so they can accomplish tasks through seeing ultraviolet light, which makes up a decent chunk of th light spectrum, that we humans are unable to see. It'll onlyy be a matter of TIME, before we humans will literally be able to see colors we weren't able to before. I believe time is a simple point of reference, that helps us get to work on time, not burn our dinners in the oven etc. It's also a number that can be put into mathematical equations to figure stuff out. My brain hurts.

 

[krunkedout]

Dmt caused me to question my reality, my identity, my everything. I wouldn't call the experience a hallucination, for I truely felt I was taken somewhere else, not like the common distortion of reality one gets from psychedelics. I felt feelings and had senses that i'd never experienced before. Like having no physical body, but knowing i was made from the fabric of the universe, and I was part of the equation. Also being aware of absolutely everything going on was connected. Exploding through the universe at incredible speeds. I was depressed and confused for months after the experience, due to the fact I was now questioning everything that I felt I already understood. I don't wanna sound like a hippie or anything, but the experience changed me in so many ways, and it was amazing. But i'll never do it again. I feel we as a human race are just beginning to scratch the surface of comprehension. Every couple years,:we make huge leaps in technology, science, and life expectancy. We now accept certain beliefs as being plausible, that we would have scoffed at ten years ago. We now have implanted devices into mice, so they can accomplish tasks through seeing ultraviolet light, which makes up a decent chunk of th light spectrum, that we humans are unable to see. It'll onlyy be a matter of TIME, before we humans will literally be able to see colors we weren't able to before. I believe time is a simple point of reference, that helps us get to work on time, not burn our dinners in the oven etc. It's also a number that can be put into mathematical equations to figure stuff out. My brain hurts.

I had my first psychedelic experience when I was somewhere between 14 and 15 with San Pedro cactus. Come to think of it, that was the first 'real' drug I had ever done. Even prior to ganja. (take that gateway drug theory) and due to my complete ignorance and my feeble inexperienced mind, I questioned everything for probably the next few months and had anxiety about a bunch of stuff. However, it was nowhere near as powerful as your DMT experience. Eventually, though I learned that through extensive "not giving a shit" I could stop caring about what is real and what isn't and just learned to accept the possibilities.