Am I doing it wrong?

[theDrizzle]

So I embarked on this kava experience by buying some GHK Micronized Moi as well as some Noble Clouds e-liquid. My thought was that I would prep the grog and try it and use the e-liquid in place of grog for reverse tolerance on days I was too lazy to choke down 5-6 cups water / 4 tbs blender prepped grog. It's been a while (two weeks) and I still feel nothing after either. I even started drinking all the grains in my prep. I usually blend for 5 minutes when making grog.

Do anti-depressants affect kava's action? I'm actually starting to just give up. Seems kava is not for me.

 

[Blippy5]

What what do you mean by "drinking the grains"?
I don't have any experience with the eclouds. The grog mix sounds really weak. I would aim for 2-4 tbs per cup of water.
Reverse tolerance can last a while. I think my period was about 2.5 weeks, but I drank heavy batches.

 

[theDrizzle]

Grains really means the stuff that doesn't mix all that well. It's more of a mud really. People say doing that can cause digestive issues? So I still strained it even though it's micronized. So basically I stopped straining.

 

[theDrizzle]

Oh dear god... so I did 8tbs to 2 cups of milk. I over did it. I can feel it but I think I did way too much. It feels like I did something that starts with a "M" which I have bad experiences with. I mostly get a huge head rush, but with me thats full of anxiety. Unfortunately, I don't enjoy it so I'll probably steer clear of kava in the future. Might be my body chemistry, but has anyone else ever reported a "bad experience" with Kava?

Edit: I only drank half.

 

[Blippy5]

With kava you generally do drink the sediment for potency. Most people make there batch of kava, and consume it in "shells". For example I poor approx 4 ounces into a small cup and drink it quickly. Wait 15-20 mins, and repeat as desired. If you drink it all at once you can really get blindsided, and nauseous. Sounds like you may have ramped up to fast, sorry if my advise led to that. I forget that new people don't know some of the things we take for granted.

Edit- oh noes! I just saw that you were drinking micro. My recommendations for dosing were based on medium grind. Yeah that would have been a really strong dose lol. Eating some food can help calm the experience down.

 

[theDrizzle]

Hey at least it worked. I'm doing better now My body "expelled" it. Don't worry about the advice, no harm no foul. In all honesty if you would have said 2 tbs, I may have done 4. It's all good. At least now I understand what it can do. You know the funny thing is that I read a few threads that were basically the same as mine "it doesn't work wah wah wah" and they always got it to work after a few more doses. I was for sure it wasn't going to work! Ooops. Oh well.

 

[Blippy5]

Thats okay! There is no real standard dose to work from, and it differs depending on the type of kava. You can't really overdose on kava, so you just keep going until you pleased, nauseous, asleep, or out of kava

 

[Blippy5]

The few occasions I've used micro, I made it a shell at a time. I use a small cup and fork, add my water, measure kava, mix and drink. That way there is no left overs, and you can adjust each shell as you like.

 

[theDrizzle]

Yeah I think I might. I guess I didn't read the Moi description very well. It says right there "heady effects". On a different note, whats the deal with tolerance. Will reverse tolerance return if I don't use kava for a while?