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Dealing with reverse tolerance (RT).

kl.c double

Kava Curious
I'm looking for advice on how I approach this. Thus far I've made two batches, the first 1 cup fiji waka to 8 water, the second 1 cup to 10 water, also fiji waka. Second batch was done with nylon hose rather than t-shirt. That has lasted me five days. Am I drinking enough to overcome RT? Should I perhaps be drinking less, or less often (drinking daily). I have a pound of Tongan Pride as well, should I crack it open, and alternate? My biggest fear is that I burn through 2 pounds without ever achieving the desired effects.

Just had about 20 ounces a half hour ago and I want to say i feel something, a little jello-ey maybe, but I don't know. Could be placebo...

I don't drink coffee, though I have a coke here and there. I haven't worried about being in a dark, relaxing place, except the first time, as I don't expect much to happen. I use opiates occasionally, and also buprenorphine on occasion if the opiate binge is heavy. I don't really think any of that would interfere with kava's effects. Also I'm addicted to a moderate dose of benzos. Any advice would be appreciated.
 

krunkedout

Kava Lover
Just keep at it. It's different for everyone, some people don't have much RT and some people do. Keep drinking daily
 

Ed!

Kava Enthusiast
Really hard to say, just keep experimenting. I would suggest lowering the amount of water though. When I first started I was using tons of water and I think now that it may have kept the reaction too subtle. I mix pretty muddy now.
 

Prince Philip

Duke of Edinborogu
c double said:
I haven't worried about being in a dark, relaxing place, except the first time, as I don't expect much to happen. I use opiates occasionally, and also buprenorphine on occasion if the opiate binge is heavy. I don't really think any of that would interfere with kava's effects. Also I'm addicted to a moderate dose of benzos. Any advice would be appreciated.
When the kava sings to me, it sings with many voices.  Often, the voice is that of Brendan Perry, sometimes the voice is that of Pinkie Pie.

Kava is rarely a knock-you-on-your-ass experience.  It is quite subtle.  It is an opening of the heart and of the mind.
 

Paradise Kava

Honolulu, HI
Kava Vendor
"Kava is rarely a knock-you-on-your-ass experience. It is quite subtle. It is an opening of the heart and of the mind."

What he said.



I would guess it's best to drink a bunch in a sitting and get RT over with imo.
 

krunkedout

Kava Lover
paradisekava said:
"Kava is rarely a knock-you-on-your-ass experience. It is quite subtle. It is an opening of the heart and of the mind."

What he said.



I would guess it's best to drink a bunch in a sitting and get RT over with imo.
if I remember correctly, Adil. Didn't you say once that you drank a bunch of 'frat boy' red plastic cups full of kava to get over your RT? I thought I remember readin that in a post somewhere... I could be thinking of something or someone entirely different though lol
 

Prince Philip

Duke of Edinborogu
Krunkedout said:
if I remember correctly, Adil. Didn't you say once that you drank a bunch of 'frat boy' red plastic cups full of kava to get over your RT? I thought I remember readin that in a post somewhere... I could be thinking of something or someone entirely different though lol
Actually, that would be me.  When I started, I had purchased some Gaia herbs extract to calm my nerves.  I sort of snapped, did triple or quadruple the recommended dosages per "shell" (1/2 cup warm tap water with a huge dropper full of tincture in a red solo cup).  Might be Adil, too.  I then Googled the effects of a large dose of kava.  I was lucky enough to find the page on the effects kava gives.  Not sure if I actually Googled in the passive voice, but it moved kava out of the realm of medicine and into the realm of recreational beverage.  I continued to down tincture and gelcaps until I the coconut shells and instant kava came.
 

krunkedout

Kava Lover
Join the club.


The first time I drank kava I had about 14 cups (yes big giant red frat boy cups) of kava and barely felt a thing.


I did have the persistence thing down.


Second day, I went to the same kava bar (in Kalapana back in the day) and I was krunked to perfection in 2 cups. So all I would say is don't give up and try enough in one sitting.


A.G.





Found it! I thought for sure I read it somewhere
 

kl.c double

Kava Curious
you guys crack me up. So you really think if I took a massive amount that would break me through,huh? I was thinking that would be wasting a massive amount of Tongan Pride...
 

krunkedout

Kava Lover
c double said:
you guys crack me up. So you really think if I took a massive amount that would break me through,huh? I was thinking that would be wasting a massive amount of Tongan Pride...


It's worth a try!
 

kl.new2kava

Kava Enthusiast
I did it slow with a lb of crappy/bunk kona kava over the course of a few weeks with various extract pills and yogi kava tea. Then I ordered up some real kava from N@H and immediately started getting results. It was a few weeks of decent results before I got awesome results. I drank a 1/2 of stone this morning along with the second wash from yesterday and I am pretty much immobilized and my vision is all fucked up.
 

kl.c double

Kava Curious
Yeah I am thinkin to get some Stone.. that seems like the most powerful stuff available right now.. it is still available right? The other intriguing option is fresh frozen.



I'm two weeks in and I'm putting down 16-20 oz of strong drink per day. I just dont think a marathon session would work, based on my results, I'd just be itching and pissing all night. Well.. I'm about to make it 24 -28 oz for today lol. Im getting something.



They have a kava forum on the Shroomery, some guy on there went to Fiji and was saying he'd have to drink 40 large coconut shells to get off, and that one night he drank a hundred. A hundred shells! That just sounds nuts.. I think I found it googling reverse tolerance. A lot of those people are taking supplements or Kona Kava, and you're not allowed to discuss vendors, so they're just stuck i guess. Someone should post a link to kavasseur there...
 

krunkedout

Kava Lover
c double said:
Yeah I am thinkin to get some Stone.. that seems like the most powerful stuff available right now.. it is still available right? The other intriguing option is fresh frozen.



I'm two weeks in and I'm putting down 16-20 oz of strong drink per day. I just dont think a marathon session would work, based on my results, I'd just be itching and pissing all night. Well.. I'm about to make it 24 -28 oz for today lol. Im getting something.



They have a kava forum on the Shroomery, some guy on there went to Fiji and was saying he'd have to drink 40 large coconut shells to get off, and that one night he drank a hundred. A hundred shells! That just sounds nuts.. I think I found it googling reverse tolerance. A lot of those people are taking supplements or Kona Kava, and you're not allowed to discuss vendors, so they're just stuck i guess. Someone should post a link to kavasseur there...
stone is all sold out right now. Hopefully they will restock it. And I'm pretty sure that guy on shroomery is spreading bullshit. His stomach would have busted from that much liquid lol
 
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