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Yvonne

Kava Curious
Would someone be able to clarify some questions for me?

What is considered a high dose of daily Kava powder strained method intake?

A medium daily dose of Kava intake?

And a low daily dose of Kava intake?

Meaning how much of the powder would a person be using from low to high usage.

Also how does a person determine the Kavlactone content in a dose?

Thanks
Yvonne.
 

Gourmet Hawaiian Kava

Kava Expert
Kava Vendor
Hi Yvonne, I will tell you how much I use and how much some of my friends use. I use about 2 tablespoons per cup of water and I drink 2 cups, this is for the medium grind that you have to strain. If I use an micronized or an instant then i would use about 2 teaspoons per cup of water and I drink 2 cups. My friends use up to 6-8 tablespoons per cup and they would drink 2-4 cups with the medium grind. with the instant they would use 2-4 tablespoons per cup of water and they would drink 2-4 cups.
When you find your strong dose then cut that in half and it should be a med dose and then cut the med dose in half and you have a low dose.
The kavalactone content is determined by a test called chromatography, in this case they use HPLC or High Pressure Liquid Chromatography, the test can be about $100 or more and sometimes less depending on where you get it. This test will give you the actual percentage of each of the 6 major kavalactones and with that information you will get the total kavalactone content and the chemotype. I hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions, aloha.

Chris
 
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No different to alcohol …are we talking about a light beer or OP Bundy Rum ? Thus what strength kava are we talking about ? Its strength varies a lot. Some i have thrown out…some , well some is very nice.

So with that said if i have a powdered kava that i consider ok strength for australia then i will mix maybe 3 full cups of powder in 2 lt water. Thats a big amount. I wont have any strenth lower than that. You must also take into account that im a lic'd kava pig & can drink large volumes with consumate ease.
 

Yvonne

Kava Curious
Thanks guys.

I am wanting to take it for medicinal purposes and really only looking for the medicinal effect.

OK given that I have never taken Kava, what is a strong effect? What are the symptoms and intensity. How would I recognize that I have hit a strong dose. I understand that everyone and every Kava would be different, but there must be some standard sensations that depict a strong dose.

Thanks.
 

Gourmet Hawaiian Kava

Kava Expert
Kava Vendor
Thanks guys.

I am wanting to take it for medicinal purposes and really only looking for the medicinal effect.

OK given that I have never taken Kava, what is a strong effect? What are the symptoms and intensity. How would I recognize that I have hit a strong dose. I understand that everyone and every Kava would be different, but there must be some standard sensations that depict a strong dose.

Thanks.
A strong effect would be you feeling the kava affect your head or as some put it a heady kava, it is a nice feeling but the more you drink the stronger it will get. Also if you have a good kava and a strong dose you will notice that you are very relaxed and you might even want to sleep, most of the time the more you drink then you will want to go to sleep and you will sleep good with great dreams but the dreams are not all the time at least for me.
Since I have been drinking kava for over 25 years I have a way of testing a kava since I know what I think is strong for me. I will take 6 tablespoons and 2 cups of water and I will drink 1 cup and wait to see how it affects me, in about 15-20 min I will drink more if I want to.
This is with the instant or the micronized, if I am using a medium grind kava then I will use 12 tablespoons with 2 cups of water and I strain the kava so there are no fibers, then I do the same, drink a bit and see how you feel.
What you need to do is find your dose, the one that makes you feel it in your head, then you can adjust it as you need to because you will know the dose that feels strong for you and then just cut it in half and half again and even half again if you want to.
I might suggest going to the vendors reviews and start readying all the different ones and look and see how much they add and then the effects they got, it will give you an idea of what other people use and how it affects them.
I think you would really like the micronized that I sell, it is great because you use it all, if you have 1 kilo you will use it all, no straining and no waste, a medium grind you will use about half and throw away half in the straining process. If you plan to go to NZ to pick up some let me know and I will see if I can get some to you some how. Aloha.

Chris
 
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Yvonne, the other factor is whether you are a "liteweight" or not. I am a liteweight. I would say that I get good effects from 1.5 tablespoon of Mironized and then later I might do another tablespoon to top it off. It is good to drink your cups in 10-20 minute intervals and check the effects before proceeding. It's like after 10 minutes, "how do I feel now?". How does my headache feel now? You will eventually find the perfect amount for you.
 

Yvonne

Kava Curious
Right, I am beginning to get the picture. Trial and error with amounts and types to see when I get the desired headache affect. Thank you Chris and Deleted User01.

I agree Chris, I really need to get some of your micronized, it's just a matter of how, and then how to continue the flow of being able to get it. I am going to have to work that one out. Even if I had an address in NZ for you to send it to, then I could only have a maximum of 4 Kg sent as my husband and myself would only be allowed to take 2 kg each back into Australia, and by the sounds of it, depending on how much I need to drink on a daily basis will determine how often I need to do a trip over. I wonder how other Australians are managing to maintain a long term regular relationship with the drinking of Kava.

I have, for the past three days, been trialling a water extracted liquid Kava Practitioner product from a company called Nutrition Care. Every 5 mls has approximately 714 mgs of root and 71 mgs of Kavalactones. Has anyone heard of this product and / or had any success with it? There is another water extracted one from a company called Medi-herb as well. If all else fails then I will have to continue to experiment with this until I can get an ongoing supply of the Kava Powder of both the micronized and the straining type.

Thanks guys,
Yvonne.
 

kavadude

❦ॐ tanuki tamer
Thing is, it depends on how kava effects you, as the other guys said. If you look at the early census results it is all over the place. Some people use like two tablespoons a week, others (me) are going through 8 tablespoons a day. So what constitutes a low and high dose is going to be relative to your tolerance.

It is very difficult to determine how many kavalactones you are consuming because each plant varies (if you look at some of the products on Chris's page, he is the only one to provide kavalactone % as far as I know, they can vary from as much as 8% to 22%) as well as the efficiency of your extraction process.
 

endwatcher

Is there death before life?
Thanks guys.

I am wanting to take it for medicinal purposes and really only looking for the medicinal effect.

OK given that I have never taken Kava, what is a strong effect? What are the symptoms and intensity. How would I recognize that I have hit a strong dose. I understand that everyone and every Kava would be different, but there must be some standard sensations that depict a strong dose.

Thanks.

You say this now; but believe me.....You will become one with Kava.
Its not so much a "Drugged" feeling
Just natural, like God put it here; just for you.

I love Kava :love:
 

yepimonfire

Kava Enthusiast
Feels like more then that to me and I'm a hardcore drinker. 4-5 teaspoon has me pretty good.

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Clear packaging is certainly the way to go. Ive been through aussie customs many times with kava. Mostly they just want to look for any livestock that may be hitching a ride so if the bag wasnt clear then id say they will def open it. The kava they couldnt care less about & they generally dont like the smell of it or the dust so they show little interest. Ive been through several times where they ask, i tell them & they do not bother to even open my bags.
 

HeadHodge

Bula To Eternity
Hi Yvonne, I will tell you how much I use and how much some of my friends use. I use about 2 tablespoons per cup of water and I drink 2 cups, this is for the medium grind that you have to strain. If I use an micronized or an instant then i would use about 2 teaspoons per cup of water and I drink 2 cups. My friends use up to 6-8 tablespoons per cup and they would drink 2-4 cups with the medium grind. with the instant they would use 2-4 tablespoons per cup of water and they would drink 2-4 cups.
When you find your strong dose then cut that in half and it should be a med dose and then cut the med dose in half and you have a low dose.
The kavalactone content is determined by a test called chromatography, in this case they use HPLC or High Pressure Liquid Chromatography, the test can be about $100 or more and sometimes less depending on where you get it. This test will give you the actual percentage of each of the 6 major kavalactones and with that information you will get the total kavalactone content and the chemotype. I hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions, aloha.

Chris
Here's another good one Chris. It would be great to see it tagged as a "Kava FAQ". ;)
 

Yvonne

Kava Curious
Thanks to everyone here. And I really get what you said Endwatcher: Just natural, like God put it here; just for you. Because believe it or not that is exactly what I have felt since taking the liquid Nutrition Care water extracted type. I even verbalized it to my husband. My Doctor has actually prescribed Kava for me and so I am able to get it in 2.5 litre bottles. I am going to stick with this until I am able to get some of Chris's, but as yet I do not have an address in NZ that he can send it to. I wonder if anyone on the forum could help me with that. If all else fails then I am going to ask my Doctor if she is prepared to apply for an import permit to get the Kava into Australia for me. I think she would agree but then again it would be touch and go as to whether or not she would be given the permit. It's worth a try though if she agrees.

I am so happy to have all of you here, it really has helped me so much in this the beginning of my Kava journey.

With Respect,
Yvonne
 

Yvonne

Kava Curious
Oh and just to say, I have read on this forum that the numb feeling in the mouth is a good sign, and I definitely have a numb mouth after taking even only a teaspoon of the water extracted Kava that I mentioned above. I am currently taking 30 - 40 mls over a period of 10 hours and it has definitely taken the edge off the head tension. I know this is a poor substitute but at least it shows that it's good. I am so hanging out to get some of Chris's micronized, where there is a will there is a way, and it's only a matter of time.
 
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