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Bula Kava House

Portland, OR
Kava Vendor
Kava Bar Owner
I just wanted to share some K@ news here since K@ gets talked about quite a bit on this forum, as it is sometimes associated with kava. I am a proponent of keeping K@ legal (along with all other intoxicants, but that's a completely different conversation). I also know from talking with some of you that you like to use K@ on occasion. Unfortunately though, the possibility of K@ being legally sold looks to be coming to an end. I sell kava to a local herb shop in Portland that makes the majority of their money from K@. I went in today and the owner told me that the FDA has stopped all shipments of K@ into the US and will not be clearing any for release moving forward. That means what is on the shelves now is all there is. Of course people will get K@ in here and there by claiming it as something else or smuggling, but rest assured it will be hard to find and expensive. So if you use K@ better stock up.
 

The Kap'n

The Groggy Kaptain (40g)
KavaForums Founder
Well...let me be the first to welcome all the new kava consumers.

I think this will remind us all of how special our kava circle is, and how important it is in how we present ourselves as kava drinkers as a whole.
 

kavadude

❦ॐ tanuki tamer
Well...let me be the first to welcome all the new kava consumers.
You know I saw a bunch of K@ headlines recently and didn't even consider this angle. Ah well, kava's taste, the effort required to prep it and the reverse tolerance seem to keep most of the riff raff out. Other than me.
 

sɥɐʞɐs

Avg. Dosage: 8 Tbsp. (58g)
Review Maestro
I've been hearing this was on it's way for a while now...looks like it's becoming official. I personally couldn't find the right balance of good effects vs. deep, dopey nausea with it, but it will certainly be a let down for many people. Although K@ does have some addiction potential, it's definitely, in many ways, safer & better than its relative alternatives. (prescription opioids often loaded with high doses of the horribly toxic acetaminophen, or heroin) Hopefully it at least remains decriminalized for personal usage and possession even though it will be harder to find, for those who want it.
It's another example of how flawed our 'war on drugs' system is, they'll make the safer alternative illegal under the guise of saving us from it...when in reality it will turn many people to the more dangerous alternatives instead...and in this case in particular, it helps "big pharma" retain its place in the opioid painkiller business.
Similarly, the same could be said for the weed vs alcohol thing...I personally enjoy alcohol and not weed...but alcohol is responsible for much more death and violence than marijuana could ever be. Yet, the law (in most places) would have you think otherwise.
...and to relate this to Ecstasy (mdma). It was made a Schedule 1 substance, up there with heroin, crack etc... with a major crackdown on it and all of it's precursor chemicals. They've made sure it's difficult to make/purchase real mdma. However, in this absence, chemists just come up with similarly behaving active chemicals ("research chemicals") that are unrecognized by the law and don't have the documented/studied human usage that ecstasy has. These research chemicals hit the street as "ecastasy" even though they are not mdma...people take them thinking they're ecstasy, and when it doesnt feel like it should, they take more...or use another drug...and this often sends them to the emergency room or the grave. Then we hear about it on the news as another 'ecstasy death'. But it actually wasnt. It was the fault of some unknown un'researched' chemical and the obliviousness and/or carelessness of the user. It turns out, actual MDMA (ecstasy) is much safer for human consumption than what floods the market in it's absence. So, again, 'saving' us from the harm of one substance is directly responsible for introducing a worse one in it's place...
Do I sound like a raver now ? :headphones:
Anyway, ...it will be a sad day if/when we see this happen to Kava. And if it does, once again, people will end up using a more dangerous/unhealthy addictive alternative because of it...and that's the problem with our drug laws.
 
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