ApéroNoble
The d'Artagnan forum 4th Kavateer
(I moved this off responsible kava use thread)
I was going to post a thread on misinformation being commonplace here . It's 2015 & folks are setting themselves up as expert enough to tell the uninformed about kava when they themselves are uninformed.
This is an example of one of the most heavily frequented sites for Americans to find information. The reason I didn't is because I don't feel comfortable contacting these sites about their warning when so many negligent companies are selling noble kava laced with tudei & still selling unwanted parts of the plant, & all being done with the consumer trusting these companies to sell what they have labeled to sell. We need to finish sweeping around our own front door first.
LIVESTRONG.COM
Last Updated: Jan 28, 2015 | By Walt Pickut
Non-Ceremonial Use
Feldman describes two traditional roles of kava. One is for private use among intimates or a select group, and the other is a communal use for public gatherings. An example of a traditional, private setting uses kava for its calming effect on a young man in a highly ceremonialized marriage proposal ritual, and a common public use is to establish a calm environment for community deliberations. Kava use outside of these settings is considered excessive, a kind of overdose or abuse, as it is simply for inebriation.
Chronic Use
Native, life-long kava drinkers who reported themselves as heavy users in the Australian study demonstrated elevated blood enzyme levels indicative of liver damage. They also had smaller than average stature, immune system abnormalities and inadequate nutritional status. Quantization of an exact overdose level was not possible, but you can clearly overdose on kava over time.
I was going to post a thread on misinformation being commonplace here . It's 2015 & folks are setting themselves up as expert enough to tell the uninformed about kava when they themselves are uninformed.
This is an example of one of the most heavily frequented sites for Americans to find information. The reason I didn't is because I don't feel comfortable contacting these sites about their warning when so many negligent companies are selling noble kava laced with tudei & still selling unwanted parts of the plant, & all being done with the consumer trusting these companies to sell what they have labeled to sell. We need to finish sweeping around our own front door first.
LIVESTRONG.COM
Last Updated: Jan 28, 2015 | By Walt Pickut
Non-Ceremonial Use
Feldman describes two traditional roles of kava. One is for private use among intimates or a select group, and the other is a communal use for public gatherings. An example of a traditional, private setting uses kava for its calming effect on a young man in a highly ceremonialized marriage proposal ritual, and a common public use is to establish a calm environment for community deliberations. Kava use outside of these settings is considered excessive, a kind of overdose or abuse, as it is simply for inebriation.
- Liver Toxicity
Chronic Use
Native, life-long kava drinkers who reported themselves as heavy users in the Australian study demonstrated elevated blood enzyme levels indicative of liver damage. They also had smaller than average stature, immune system abnormalities and inadequate nutritional status. Quantization of an exact overdose level was not possible, but you can clearly overdose on kava over time.
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....soooo let the sites know they're on our list & if they'd like to be removed please contact us with the revised & corrected version. Make it known here at the top of the list that any who want their sites removed to contact us.
Now your talking boss. It's time for non-wussy solutions. Here's another solution. Get their home address and me and the boys hide in the bushes, and then ...... 