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Kava and Buddhism

Jacob Bula

Nobody
Hello everyone,

I have been regularly practicing Zen Buddhism this year and haven't had kava in a while. I remember earlier in the year having trouble with motivation after heavy kava sessions and slack off on daily meditation. Are there any other kava lovers here who also keep a regular meditation routine and/or practice Buddhism? How do you feel about the 5th precept in relation to kava use? Precepts aren't commandments, and are more of suggestions on ways of living to achieve enlightenment. In the lineage I follow at the NC Zen Center the fifth precept reads as follows:

"I resolve not to cause others to abuse alcohol or drugs/nor to do so myself but to keep the mind clear".

It seems like if I can find a healthy relationship with kava, it would be the perfect drink to relax with on occasion as its not prone to abuse and the mind can stay clear.
 

JohnMichael

Kava Synchronized
Hello everyone,

I have been regularly practicing Zen Buddhism this year and haven't had kava in a while. I remember earlier in the year having trouble with motivation after heavy kava sessions and slack off on daily meditation. Are there any other kava lovers here who also keep a regular meditation routine and/or practice Buddhism? How do you feel about the 5th precept in relation to kava use? Precepts aren't commandments, and are more of suggestions on ways of living to achieve enlightenment. In the lineage I follow at the NC Zen Center the fifth precept reads as follows:

"I resolve not to cause others to abuse alcohol or drugs/nor to do so myself but to keep the mind clear".

It seems like if I can find a healthy relationship with kava, it would be the perfect drink to relax with on occasion as its not prone to abuse and the mind can stay clear.
I'm not a Buddhist, but I have used some of your techniques during our Friends (Quakers) Meetings. An hour in silence with others, listening, sensing the light, can feel like a long session. Thich Nhat Hanh has been helpful with ways to focus. And one isn't tempted to over indulge at all, just a couple shells, when meditating at home.
 

Skinskava

70-80 g to 1 Liter-Day Dreamer- My Roots Run Deep-
I sit for etleast an hour a day… zazen lineage. Have done intensive retreats. I find kava to be quite meditative but at times distracting (not in a bad way) just the euphoria makes it hard to sit and suffer ;)
 

Skinskava

70-80 g to 1 Liter-Day Dreamer- My Roots Run Deep-
Can you elaborate "sit and suffer", especially the "suffer" part?
Part of going deep into a contemplative practice is sitting with your darkness or demons. Suffering is inevitable but many people tend to run from it. When your sitting for long sessions you are bound to have to face some of these things. The practice begins at acceptance.. theres the physical suffering as well with upright posture for long sittings. Its a discipline like anything worth doing
 
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