Kava Research Kava researcher warns against drinking alcohol after kava
- Thread starter TheKavaSociety
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Thanks for sharing this article with us. I have noticed that sometimes when I get some unknown kava from Fiji, it will be very thick even with my normal amount and prep method, I wonder if it is flour that is causing the extra thickness that is not there with normal kava?
Aloha.
Chris
Aloha.
Chris
Kavashua
Mmmm Kava
I have noticed this myself. Often times the thickness is created even without kneading in the times I have observed it. which leads me to draw the same conclusions
recentreturn
Kava Enthusiast
Is there an easy way to test for flour?
verticity
I'm interested in things
If it's not wheat flour but copra from coconuts, you could test for residual coconut oil, which could be done with HPLC. It's possible to test for total fat by extracting with diethyl ether and weighing the amount extracted; kava should have no fat, but that test might be confounded by kavalactones and flavokavains which would also be extracted. Also if the copra is pressed to remove all the coconut oil, it could be hard to detect.
To test for wheat flour they actually make these gluten detection kits for people who are paranoid about gluten...
https://glutentox.com/product/all/glutentox-hometest-gluten-home/
... so you can verify your kava or anything else is gluten free ...
Zac Imiola (Herbalist)
Kava Connoisseur
I can only experiment so much with random kava ... if it doesn't taste or smell or look like kava when I brew it up .. I just dump it out.
Sadly a lot of herb stores
Sadly a lot of herb stores
Dr.Krunk
Certified Quack
Could it be contributed to ISA/Tudei by any chance? The N@H ISA definitely produces a grog that’s noticeably different from a noble grog.
recentreturn
Kava Enthusiast
How come no one has done a review on that product? Their banner that its the most controversial kava on the Kava Forums did capture a certain truth: I'm curious (just not curious enough to buy a pound of it).
Dr.Krunk
Certified Quack
I can’t say why or why not someone would review a specific Kava. I’m not gonna get into the N@H debate, even though I still don’t agree with their marketing.
I think the majority of the active members here choose Kava to avoid Tudei like effects. A tudei can absolutely have intoxicating effects much beyond normal kava that are not inherently pleasurable; while often increasing anxiety that many consume Kava to avoid in the first place.
I’ve consumed the N@H ISA on several occasions. I had a generally positive experience, very strong and long lasting. The effects absolutely lasted into the next day feeling very lethargic; which is why I’ll only drink it on Friday or Saturday.
Zac Imiola (Herbalist)
Kava Connoisseur
I'll have to grab some pure isa and try it myself so I can be a better judge .. I feel as though I don't have a strong sense of tuedi..
What you describe sounds nice.
What you describe sounds nice.
Dr.Krunk
Certified Quack
It’s definitely interesting. I think drinking such a Kava at least once is a good experience for indicating such effects in other questionable Kava’s. I think sometimes people may have a negative experience with a noble Kava and falsely attest it to tudei/ISA contamination. Drinking too much of a strong Kava that one isn’t used to can have some similar effects to a certain degree. The Tudei is a different feeling, I still enjoyed the experience but it’s not the same as a noble. All IMO though
Le_Zèbre_420
Newbie
I was aware that mixing alcohol and kava could be bad.
But how much do you have to wait to consume alcohol after Kava, in a reasonable way? Is it only some hours or days ?
For me, I usually don't drink Kava on same days I have, say, a family dinner where I know I'll have a beer or two.
Same on the other way, when it's Kava night, I restrict myself to no alcohol at all.
But how much do you have to wait to consume alcohol after Kava, in a reasonable way? Is it only some hours or days ?
For me, I usually don't drink Kava on same days I have, say, a family dinner where I know I'll have a beer or two.
Same on the other way, when it's Kava night, I restrict myself to no alcohol at all.
Krunkie McKrunkface
Kava Connoisseur
I think it depends on how much you drink of each. If you drink a lot of alcohol every day, you probably shouldn't ever have any kava. Similarly, if you drink a lot of kava every day, you probably shouldn't ever have any alcohol (although, why the hell would you want any? You're drinking lots of kava every day. Does it ever get any better than that?).
But I think if you only drink alcohol once or twice a week, and not a lot, and the same with kava, it probably won't be that big a thing. Just don't ever drink a bunch of alcohol and then drink kava.
PepperyPyrone
I'll have the pyrones with some pepper, please.
You can drink light alcohol drinks after a good kava session, I love a Mic Ultra or two after getting wobbly from some Squanch. It's refreshing. I've also had wine or some fine hard cider with dinner after having a few pre-dinner kava shells. With that being said, your body will let you know that you cannot drink high alcohol content drinks after kava. Especially hard liquor, there is absolutely a metabolic issue that can cause headache, dehydration, an overall unpleasant feeling, shortness of breath, raised blood pressure, and even a cutaneous alcohol flushing rash around your neck and chest. Point is that you cannot mix high levels of alcohol with kava and visa versa unless you want to cause severe harm to your body. Kava has taught me to respect alcohol which is something I never used to do. But now I prefer kava over alcohol any day.