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Lebot on Kava in Europe: " it will take years"

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HeadHodge

HeadHodge

Bula To Eternity
govt regulation always creates a compliance tax on products and services.

no matter how "noble" the regulation may be i cant believe this will be a good thing for kava because it will deincentivize the already generally poor suppliers to produce, unless the price is elastic enough to cover the extra costs incured.

so imo its ok with me if it takes years or infinity to implement this new "standard". Im a capitalist and believe the forces of supply and demand will self regulate the market. For example, even though its fairly small scale, the forums have effected a higher demand for noble type kava, and suppliers have responded in kind to this change in demand by providing more noble products.

if anything, id rather see tax money collected and spent on more research and education for kava
 
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kasa_balavu

kasa_balavu

Yaqona Dina
HeadHodge said:
no matter how "noble" the regulation may be i cant believe this will be a good thing for kava because it will deincentivize the already generally poor suppliers to produce
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I don't see how that would be the case. It makes no difference to the farmer what type of kava he grows, so long as there is a market for it. Kava being accepted as a food internationally massively grows the market for it, which means demand goes up, prices go up, etc etc... all good things for the farmers.
 
Intrepidus_dux

Intrepidus_dux

Kava O.G.
Henry said:
I ve just returned from a trip to Vanuatu. I ve visited growers and spoken with exporters. Hardly anyone plants tudei these days. Exports are limited to the old stock and If it wasnt for a small group of individuaks there would likely be close to virtually no significant tudei export today.

There is simply little demand for tudei irrespective of regulations. Even kiribati and caledonia no longer buy it in large quantities. Apparently Fiji is now the key dumping ground for tudei and redried makas.

Most consumers dont want tudei for recreational drinking and with the eu situation and beyter knowledge there is little demand for it from reputable pharma companies.

According to the people I spoke with, the tudei exports tudei are largely sent to the chinese extract makers, a couple of dodgy players in the states, a few ppl who dont know any better and fijian middlemen who then export it to the states or nz. Both groups buy just about anything.

To give you an example: I saw used makas being redried by a literal shitter next to a nakamal. They were being sold for 1usd per kg to a fijian importer
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The dried makas thing sounds really gross. I was just telling a friend tonight to save the third wash makas for when she's out of kava and needs something. Hers won't be dried by the toilet either. Double win?
 
The Kap'n

The Kap'n

The Groggy Kaptain (40g)
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@Henry

Anything we can do as consumers to discourage these types of dealings? We wouldn't happen to know who was importing dried makas do we? I'd love to make sure they were labeling it correctly.
 
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