Maori Kava (Macropiper Excelsum)

[kl.r3mote]

a vendor i occasionally go to buy my botanicals from  (infamous for having new and interesting experimental products that pop up just about every other week) is now offering NoneMacropiper excelsum NoneorNone kawakawaNone as a highly concentrated resin.NoneNone
i'm probably going to buy some if no one has heard of it (smiley: roll)

the wikipedia page for the plant doesn't really offer any information
regarding psychoactivity, so i'm hoping someone here might know about
this stuff.

 

[kl.Euphoric lemur]

I read that it gives great euphoria.

"a very rare and extremely exotic ethnobotanical cultivated on a private farm in the sunny paradise of New Zealand. Absolutely no chemicals are used during the growing or preparing process of this plant. We use a very effective method of extraction infusing 9 grams of pure Kawakawa extracted alkaloids onto 1 gram of the leaf, resulting in a very rich euphoric 10x extracted"

-botanical spirit shop

I think the effects are very different from kava. If it's natural SSRI or MAOI then it's bad to mix with kava.

I have been thinking on buying some, but can't find much info about it on the net.

 

[kl.EthnoPharm]

Oooo, interesting... I was doing a little research and found that Macropiper excelsum contains about 44% myristicin and about 3% elemicin (rounded), which are the phenylpropenes found in nutmeg, but in a greater concentration. These are hallucinogenic in nature (but as far as I can see, they didn't particularly see hallucinations). Some other compounds are precursors to "essential amphetamines", and could play a small part to why the Maori felt stimulant like effects from it. It was also used to treat a myriad of ailments. Hmmmmmmmmm...

 

[kl.Euphoric lemur]

Maybe I'll buy some and give it a try. I can't find any reviews anywhere about it. I whouldn't have a clue about how to use it.

 

[kl.Gray Owl]

I have a bunch, but the active ingredient is supposed to be Myristicin, which is somewhat hallucinogenic, and I haven't been in the right place for a little trip, also I have no idea what my tolerance for the stuff is going to be, could take a little planning not the sort of thing I just dash into as I can be abnormally sensitive to some things. The leaves are used and not the root, I think you just brew them up as a tea, they do not contain kavalactones despite being a cousin of Piper methysticum.