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Pushed it a bit far last night

kavalover

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So last night, a friend of mine was coming to visit. Insisting I make kava for the two of us to drink. I made enough for two people, even though it would be his first time drinking kava. After one shell he was done, "even liquor doesn't taste that bad!" he said. lol. So we stayed up late chatting and when he crashed out, I drank the rest of the kava while reading a bit. About 7 whole cups of kava juice - originally prepared with 2 cups of kava in 8 cups water. Needless to say, I shouldn't have done that. Second time I've made this exact mistake, by the way. I couldn't even stand up without feeling as if gravity was turned on extra-high. I crawled into bed, drank a cup of water, and just fell into comatose.

This morning I woke up feeling nauseous, and got up as I stared salivating like crazy, suggesting I was going to vomit. I didn't even make it out of bed! Oh man, it was terrible. For 2 whole hours it just felt like the worst Flu I've ever had - and, interestingly, my entire body was numb and tingly. You know... like when your leg "falls asleep" - kind of like that. It's weird, I could actually pinch myself as hard as I tried, and it didn't hurt at all. My skin all around was just numb. It's about 1:13pm here now, I drank the kava initially at 9pm last night. I'm still feeling it hard. Not fun, man.

Just thought I'd share a bit of a "too much kava" story with you guys. I feel really bad for pushing it like that, I should have known that was too much.
 

kl.midas

Kava Enthusiast
That sounds painful! I get some crippling bad hangovers with alcohol that make me want to curl up into a ball and die. Never had such an experience with kava yet though, athough I've never drank nearly as much as that in one sitting! Out of curiousity, did your friend feel any effects, given that it was his 1st kava experience? Hope you're coming back around to normality again
 

Ed!

Kava Enthusiast
Yikes, I didn't even know that was possible. With alcohol I have a habit of over-indulging and regretting it in the morning but I've never woken up feeling bad from kava. I think that's partially because no matter how much I may think I want to overdo it, the kava seems to tell me to stop. I'll start feeling queasy, and if I continue to push it I'll throw up right then and there. Surprised you were able to get that much in you without it instantly coming back up!
 

Ozzyfan121

Pretentious, Wannabe Philosopher
That really sucks. I hope you're feeling better--that sounds like way too much of a good thing.
 

kl.stevev

Kava Curious
That sucks. I've had kava hangovers, just not nearly as bad as yours. I've had the uncomfortable numbing too, but not the day after.  I'd blame too much too fast, diet and exercise on mine. One time I had the same kava different nights, both strong. I think it was Borogu. One night I woke up feeling like total crap until noon, and the other I woke up feeling refreshed.
 

Buddhacide

Kava Enthusiast
Happens to the best of us. I used to get bad hangovers from kava years back before I began seriously looking into it. I had bought numerous strains and was randomly sampling them, and the PNG isa was my favorite. I didnt know what a tudei was or what a double-bonded lactone was at the time. I just know that stuff worked best, but also ruined me the next day. Now I have a bit more sense about it, and I find kava unbelievably forgiving for the most part. But I still get the odd hangover. Yesterday I woke up with  a terrible headache, and automatically blamed the kava. But then I realized I had drank almost no non-alcoholic liquids the day before. I wasnt drunk at any point, but I had ceasars for breakfast, and some beer and wine during the day. Then I had the kava in the late evening. After peeing all my remaining electrolytes out I was asking for trouble, lol. Anyway, hope it didnt put you off your game too much.
 

The Kap'n

The Groggy Kaptain (40g)
KavaForums Founder
I experienced the tingles when I didn't understand the ratios of lactones and what they did. When I drank tudei from HKC I had the pins and needles feeling all over my body constantly, and basically adopted it as normal then I asked myself why I felt so bad on a regular basis. Needless to say I don't buy that anymore. It also made me spew a few times and always made me feel nauseous. But yeah, I find a little leftover feeling from Kava the next day is actually kinda awesome, but too much is bad news. Tudei is also what made my skin bleed...all of it.
 

kl.new2kava

Kava Enthusiast
I actually took it way too far a few weeks back with the new batch of stone. That was the first time in over a year that I puked and passed out from kava and I woke up with a brutal hangover and diarrea from hell. I was only from 2 full shells which led me to volume check my shell. I got a sweet coconut cup from BKH and it seemed pretty friggin big but never bothered to see how friggin big. When I did a volume check on it I found it holds about 3 1/2 cups of fluid. So two full shells was likely 6 plus cups of stone juice where a fat cup of root had been used to a ten cup batch. I've been alot more cautious since then and have learned to respect the stone....
 

kl.NDG

Kava Enthusiast
It happens to the best of us brother, downers generally don't get me but something like MJ can turn rough in a hurry.
 

Vekta

Notorious Lightweight
Review Maestro
7 cups? You didn't loose a bet or something did you? (smiley: laugh)
3 cups would probably put me down. I don't even want to imagine what 7 would feel like if I could even get that much kava down in one session.
 

kavalover

Outsider
It pretty much took me a whole day to recover from that. Only until about 11pm last night did my numb skin and that weird "kava lightness" in my muscles went away. I'm pretty sure, that if a cannibal had eaten my at any given time yesterday, they would got an added krunk XD



@midas - He was a bit amused at the numb mouth and throat but other than that, nah, he didn't "get it" his first time.



@Ed - I'm surprised I downed that much too. Although, that "inhibitor" effect that many websites talk about, where people hit a cut off point where they can't drink anymore kava, hasn't really bothered me as of late. Kava will let me know when I've had enough, when I should probably stop. But, I could totally keep drinking until the simple fact of a full stomach makes me puke. I've never had an iron stomach so I don't know why I'm like that with kava.



But anyway, yeah guys. I won't be doing that again. lol. Buddhacide - no, didn't put my game down. I don't think. haha. I just couldn't stand the thought of kava at all yesterday. Or, come to think of it, any strong flavor or smell. I even missed out on my morning coffee yesterday and this morning as a result, and consequentially, I have a pounding headache. I'll probably drink some instant tonight just to get rid of the headache. But you're right, kava is incredible forgiving. and for that I'm thankful.
 
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