I had an interesting experience last night. Had a few (4) 2 tsp servings of Realkava's instant over the course of probably 1.5 hrs and was feeling good then ate dinner (leftovers from the night before) about a half hour later. After that I sat down on the couch to watch TV and with very little warning, up came my dinner. (smiley: sick) I have no idea why this happened. I usually have an iron stomach and NEVER get sick. It's literally been years since the last time I was sick to my stomach. Fortunately I felt it coming and grabbed the trash can, but the whole thing has freaked me out a bit. I'm not sure if I ate too soon, drank too much of an unfamiliar kava, or maybe just maybe had a bit of a stomach bug. I doubt it was the food since my husband ate the same thing and was fine, not to mention that we both ate it the night before without issue. Anyone care to give an opinion? I didn't feel like I'd overdone it but I definitely don't want this to happen again and for me to associate kava with puking! (smiley: frown)
Vomiting on kava? (warning: may be a bit gross)
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The first few times I drank kava I felt sick one of those times I did actually end up throwing up quite badly(sweating, watery eyes). I still felt bad for a few hours but when I eat something I felt better. It's like the opposite for me; if I don't eat something before or soon after my stomach feels upset.
Is their kava high in DHM or Kavian?
Is their kava high in DHM or Kavian?
Ed!
Kava Enthusiast
That doesn't sound pleasant. I've thrown up once with kava because I too have an iron belly and assumed there would be no problem with downing a bunch of Stone in 5-7 minute intervals. Barfed it all up (was all water since I hadn't eaten yet). Learned later that a high DHM kava is probably not one I want to slam back.
Is that a typical quantity and time-frame for you? I can usually feel it when I'm pushing it, and it doesn't sound like that happened for you.
Is that a typical quantity and time-frame for you? I can usually feel it when I'm pushing it, and it doesn't sound like that happened for you.
Thanks for the replies. I didn't think that throwing up with kava was all too common, but from the replies I guess it does happen. It wasn't pleasant at all so I definitely want to avoid a repeat occurrence.
I think their instant is higher in kavain than DHM but I'm not 100% sure. It seems very similar to the BKH Instant Green with slight differences in consistency and color. Like BKH's, it's a fresh green kava from Vanuatu. It's maybe a bit more than I usually drink, but not by much, although I haven't really drank much of this particular variety before. I seriously never throw up, like ever, even in my heavy drinking days. I'm hoping it was just a stomach bug but I'm feeling ok this morning.
The only other thing I was thinking was maybe I ate too soon afterwards since usually I try to space it out a bit more, but it doesn't sound like there's any hard and fast rule about how long to wait before eating. I dunno. I think I may start adding ginger if this happens again. Blech. Sorry about the unpleasant topic.
I think their instant is higher in kavain than DHM but I'm not 100% sure. It seems very similar to the BKH Instant Green with slight differences in consistency and color. Like BKH's, it's a fresh green kava from Vanuatu. It's maybe a bit more than I usually drink, but not by much, although I haven't really drank much of this particular variety before. I seriously never throw up, like ever, even in my heavy drinking days. I'm hoping it was just a stomach bug but I'm feeling ok this morning.
The only other thing I was thinking was maybe I ate too soon afterwards since usually I try to space it out a bit more, but it doesn't sound like there's any hard and fast rule about how long to wait before eating. I dunno. I think I may start adding ginger if this happens again. Blech. Sorry about the unpleasant topic.
kavalover
Outsider
I have only thrown up on kava once and it was very strange to me as I wasn't sick or anything and had been drinking kava for 2 months before this had happened. I was drinking Fiji Waka for the first time, and after having 3 shells of 4tbsp per cup water, I suddenly felt sick and vomited everything up. After that I was fine, albeit sleepy and crashed out. This has never happened to me since though, so I figured it was due to a sudden spike of kavalactones in my blood as waka grade typically contains more kavalactones than a crown root kava. But this is theoretical, I'm not completely sure why that happened.
Sounds similar, kavalover. I didn't feel ill or anything until about 15 seconds before I puked up my dinner. And then after emptying my stomach, I felt fine - a little queasy I guess, and mostly sleepy, but that sort of thing tends to wipe a person out regardless of kava ingestion. I'm gonna get back on the horse and drink some kava tonight nice and slowly and see how it goes. It's strange that this would happen now. After all, I've been drinking kava for quite some time at this point. Maybe my reverse tolerance is really kicking in now so it hit me harder than usual. Hopefully it was a one time occurrence.
Hey y'all. Just back from Vanuatu. More on that later. Many people there visiting the numerous nakamals that weren't too familiar with kava reported sickness from kava drinking. It's a given that fresh kava from Vanuatu is quite a bit stronger than dry root, but people also get sick once in a blue moon from kava served at the kava bar. It's somewhat common with good strong kava.
Ozzyfan121
Pretentious, Wannabe Philosopher
That sounds very unpleasant. Hopefully it was a fluke. When I drink kava with a considerable amount of DHM, I'll occasionally take meclizine beforehand just as a preventative measure. Taking pharmaceuticals regularly to cope with side effects of a non-pharmaceutical isn't a very viable option, however, as it kind of defeats the purpose of going the non-pharmaceutical route in the first place; just a thought.
kl.Gray Owl
Kava Enthusiast
Once I got a bit nauseous and for about a week just the smell of kava made me feel ill. I was doing 10 minutes between shells, I have since backed it off to 12 minutes. Sometimes, I put chai flavored syrup in stronger tasting kava, that has ginger in it. I have also used Fee's Sarsaparilla Syrup. If you should start using Pepto Bismol, then you've probably gone too far and should probably rethink your intake level ;-)
kl.Gray Owl
Kava Enthusiast
A rule of thumb from ethnobotany is that puking is like your body's safety mechanism, you don't necessarily want to override it until you have a pretty good handle on how a particular botanical affects you and what is safe.
A few kavas have given me diarrhea the next day, like Kule'a Farm's Melo Melo, I think the fact that it's more peppery is a factor, I have Crohn's Disease and things that are peppery or spicy tend to do that to me.
A few kavas have given me diarrhea the next day, like Kule'a Farm's Melo Melo, I think the fact that it's more peppery is a factor, I have Crohn's Disease and things that are peppery or spicy tend to do that to me.
Thanks, Ed. Your sympathy puke did make me feel much better! (smiley: laugh)
Not to be discouraged, I drank more of the same kava last night, but less and with plenty of ginger ale. I also waited an hour before eating. No problems at all. I'm guessing it was a one-off mostly due to the fact that I wasn't familiar with how this kava would creep up on me. I plan on giving it another go tonight, same stuff but again slowly and with ginger ale. I don't like being beaten. (smiley: grin)
Not to be discouraged, I drank more of the same kava last night, but less and with plenty of ginger ale. I also waited an hour before eating. No problems at all. I'm guessing it was a one-off mostly due to the fact that I wasn't familiar with how this kava would creep up on me. I plan on giving it another go tonight, same stuff but again slowly and with ginger ale. I don't like being beaten. (smiley: grin)
kavalover
Outsider
I have problems with diarrhea the few days after specific kavas as well, now that you mention it they have always been the particularly heavy 'peppery' kavas. I don't suffer from any gastrointestinal issues though as far as I am aware, and have heard many reports in kava discussions on youtube and on the drug forums among other places of this effect. It may upset crohns disease but know that it's been experienced as a common issue with these varieties of kavas in those with no history of gastrointestinal issues.Gray Owl said:
Kojo Douglas
The Kavasseur
When I first started drinking Kava I used to have massive misunderstandings about my limits and the potential for sickness that different Kavas posed. I remember the first time I tried Wow! Kava and followed N@H's instructions. I mixed about 1 cup of root with a litre of water and was so excited that I drank through the whole liter within 15 minutes. I was sick for a solid three days and could barely move my head. At first, I thought N@H might have just been sending me a stronger batch because I was going to write a review. I waited a week and tried it again at a more conservative pace and it was a fine experience.
That's intense! I can't imagine being sick like that for 3 days! I haven't had any problems since so I probably just drank it too fast without knowing that it could have that effect. Out of curiosity, how long do you usually wait in between shells now?Vesuvio Cat said:
Kojo Douglas
The Kavasseur
about five or ten minutes, depending on what I drink. I drink strong kavas slower so I can see how I react. With a milder Fijian or Tongan I drink quite liberally.