Ok, when I make traditional Kava, I use about .75 cup of kava to about 20 oz of liquid to yield a 16oz lock tap bottle of joy juice. Once I bottle that, I add about 10oz of liquid to the exisiting strainer, and go at it with gusto. By the time I'm finished, all I have is a small ball of prickly kava fibers because I got all the good stuff out. So I reward myself with at least a cup of the second wash. I put the rest in the fridge because I think chilled kava tastes better than warm kava. I also mix coconut water with regular water. However, since kneading a process, I usually just do some GHK micronized in water and be done with it.