News from Vila
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Good post @nabanga. It would appear that Vanuatu is still trying to set up standards so the European Union, or what's left of it, will allow Kava Imports. Makes sense to me and our European members would be happy, happy. So I would imagine that they will try to stay away from Kavas that give you bad side effects or heavy hangovers the next day. These kavas might effect a persons ability to work the next day and so that makes sense (as much as anything). Now, how to they know which kavas might create the hangover? Tricky business and I ain't gonna start another thread on that "volatile" topic. I guess you could ask the people of Vanuatu and other imbiders and let them point out the culprits. But something has to be put on the "sacrificial altar" if Kava is to be accepted in Europe and the rest of the world. Since I have no use for Hangover Kavas, I think those kavas can be sacrificed to appease the importing nations. It shows a willingness to regulate Kava for the good of the public though it may also reek of pandering.
We all want good safe Kava being distributed world wide and we want it accepted by the rest of the world. Acetone testing is one way to test Kava but probably asking Islanders/members/Imbiders to describe their own experience might be the best way. So let's leave it at that. Members, you just need to report if a Kava gave you a hangover the next day and let the rest of the members decide if that is good or bad. We can self-police ourselves in that manner without getting "testy". Oops,
play on words ...
We all want good safe Kava being distributed world wide and we want it accepted by the rest of the world. Acetone testing is one way to test Kava but probably asking Islanders/members/Imbiders to describe their own experience might be the best way. So let's leave it at that. Members, you just need to report if a Kava gave you a hangover the next day and let the rest of the members decide if that is good or bad. We can self-police ourselves in that manner without getting "testy". Oops,
play on words ...
Alia
'Awa Grower/Collector
This reads like the CODEX listings of kava cultivars are still a possibility...contrary to a report I was recently sent from Germany. Some years ago (I thought) there was a Vanuatu Kava Act which would already have some of the "standards" in place. Nevertheless, if the story has follow-through it is very good news. Thank you for sending.
Alia
'Awa Grower/Collector
After checking in to this story further, it is sounding like very good news! A reliable source has told me that if PHAMA is involved then there is hope.
Kojo Douglas
The Kavasseur
Very interesting.
I've heard from inside sources that that Kava supply from Vanuatu is collapsing due to the many climate-induced disasters that have been inflicted on the island nation over the past few years.
However, I have worked with FAO in the past (and am delighted to see they are getting involved here) and know them to be a good source for info of any kind. They are one of the few effective branches of the UN.
I've heard from inside sources that that Kava supply from Vanuatu is collapsing due to the many climate-induced disasters that have been inflicted on the island nation over the past few years.
However, I have worked with FAO in the past (and am delighted to see they are getting involved here) and know them to be a good source for info of any kind. They are one of the few effective branches of the UN.
Kalm with Kava
Kava Vendor
I will actually be attending this meeting on Friday. They're really trying to step up the game here with quality of exports being a huge focus. Theyve been distributing posters to the Nakamals and farmers educating them on Noble varieties.
The Borogu/Borogoru thing is always so elusive...I've seen seen things like the codex, or something, reference both names separately...then in Lebot's he almost contradicts his own statements by first saying they're the same cultivar, named differently on different parts of the island...only to go on and compare a certain kava specifically to 'Borogoru', as if it's distinctly different. Maybe @Kalm with Kava can talk to Lebot about it while he's there.
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I have a feeling that when disasters hit the Kava Farms, the locals end up with NO KAVA. Exports will bring more money to the farmers so I believe we will always have good kava while the Islanders are going thirsty. It would be nice if they would train farmers how to grow "kick ass" Kava. That would automatically make Tudei obsolete. Then we need a rating system. 1 kick ass to 5 kick ass. I have a feeling the strong the kava, the more side effects. Especially the "heavy" ones.
nabanga
Kava Enthusiast
Yes - there are about 5 distinct cultural groups on Pentecost, with different but related languages. I've been about 15 times and drank all over the island and nobody I met there ever differentiated between the 2 names, putting it down to language differences between 2 areas. I guess the only way to tell would be a series of lab tests with several samples of "each".
Kalm with Kava
Kava Vendor
I met with some farmers of Pentecost 2 days ago and there's actually at least 3 separate variations of Borogu/Boroguru/Borongoru and possibly a couple more. I have samples of each for further research and hopefully speaking with Lebot later this week about it in depth.The Borogu/Borogoru thing is always so elusive...I've seen seen things like the codex, or something, reference both names separately...then in Lebot's he almost contradicts his own statements by first saying they're the same cultivar, named differently on different parts of the island...only to go on and compare a certain kava specifically to 'Borogoru', as if it's distinctly different. Maybe @Kalm with Kava can talk to Lebot about it while he's there.
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I have had each strain and they do feel very different to me.
Alia
'Awa Grower/Collector
This would be a wonderful question to get settled, thank you! I have followed the "Borogu Question" and had noted that even in Patricia & Vincent book- BUVEURS de KAVA- there is no "Borogu", only Borogorou and Borogou spellings.
verticity
I'm interested in things
It's the French spelling: Borogoreaux
Alia
'Awa Grower/Collector
I am getting way too serious in my old age! Confusion sets in now and then also!
verticity
I'm interested in things
True story: when you first started posting here I didn't know your age or gender. Based on your user name and the content of your posts, I assumed you were a relatively young female kava expert. That is, you seem to have a youthful enthusiasm about kava, and the -ia suffix on your name threw me off.
Alia
'Awa Grower/Collector
Were you able to get and answer?
nickbroken
Kava Enthusiast
Eh I have a bunch of boroguru so it's more or less the same as borogu? Because I was going to order some borogu but if it's more or less the same then meh.
chandra
Kava Enthusiast
In a perfect world I would say let the free market do its job. However, with the government here going after K@, having some sort of regulation in the kava industry is probably a good thing. I do think that the industry needs to take a proactive approach to ensure that kava doesn't come under fire.
verticity
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My personal experience has been that kava labeled 'borogoru' is heavier and more sedating that kava labeled 'borogu'. For example 'borogoru' from Gourmet Hawaiian Kava seems to be heavier and longer acting than 'borogu' from Kalm with Kava. But that is just the retail labeling, which might not correspond to the actual cultivars as described by Lebot...
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