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Deleted User01

More Kavain? By the way, are you and I the only playing "Stump the Professor"? I think that I used to hear that headier kavas had more lateral root. And perhaps heady kavas are not the prescription for those who suffer from clinical anxiety. I know we talked about all this but it was a very long time ago.
But why don't you follow the line of questioning of "What Kavalactones are likely to trigger anxiety?". I think this argument will also get close to "What kavas are heavier and what Kavalactones are dominant in those types"? Anyway, I'm way out of pay grade on these subjects.
 

Zac Imiola (Herbalist)

Kava Connoisseur
I think that no matter how heavy a kava ... if only lateral is being used it's beyond the simplicity of that.. I really wanna hear from someone who mixes them
 
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Deleted User01

Ok, talk about thc, why is Kush supposed to be so dangerous and turning people into Zombies? I just heard that on the TV the other day and I imagined there would be a mad rush to buy it. I tell ya, the potency of the green herb has been amplified geometrically since I was a long haired pot smoking ner'do well. I guess that's why I love kava. It's just the right dose and you can still get up and go if need be.
 

Zac Imiola (Herbalist)

Kava Connoisseur
I fear that culture finding it's way into kava... look how quickly looking for a high destroyed the medicinal spect of a great plant
I don't want to see gentler kavas lose their appeal ... I'm finding I cannot handle thsee power house kavas .. just like I can't handle the powerhouse cannabis' that are around .
 

Groggy

Kava aficionado
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I fear that culture finding it's way into kava... look how quickly looking for a high destroyed the medicinal spect of a great plant
I don't want to see gentler kavas lose their appeal ... I'm finding I cannot handle thsee power house kavas .. just like I can't handle the powerhouse cannabis' that are around .
There are 2 types of powerhouse kavas, on both sides, the super heady or the couch locking heavy kavas.

I think that only some people get anxious on the super heady, I am not one of them, I love them :)
 
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Deleted User01

Hey, if you got some super potent kavas, just consume less and put the extra money in your piggy bank. But comparing kava to MJ in my opinion are apples to oranges. People doing MJ were always looking to be stoned otta their skulls. Those going to Kava are looking to get away from that and deliberately take something less potent, more gentle, and more adult friendly. You know, adults who have jobs, families, and responsibilities. That right there makes many of us anxious.
On your question about lateral vs stump. I have a feeling only the farmer could give you an answer and that's even assuming he is measuring it. Hey @Gourmet Hawaiian Kava, can you give us your take on the lateral to stump question?
 

kasa_balavu

Yaqona Dina
Does anyone know the lateral root to stump ratio of our kava forums kavas ?
@Gourmet Hawaiian Kava @Bula Kava House @nakamalathome @Kalm with Kava @CactusKava
While you're at it, feel free to also give us your sales and profit margin figures over the past 3yrs. :sneaky:

Seriously though, I'm sure some of them have done extensive taste and potency testing and would consider their ratios a trade secret.

@Kava Time (and his family) have been processing kava for Fijian vendors for decades... perhaps he'd be willing to tell us not his own secret recipe, but what the most commonly requested ratio is in Fiji.
 
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Zac Imiola (Herbalist)

Kava Connoisseur
Hahaha ya I don't want exact just a general idea to see if theirs some correlations .
Like stone is a heavy kava but I'm pretty sure it's mainly lateral so after about 4tbsp. I get really stimulated from it .. lol... something is building up and breaking the heavy ratio
 

Kava Time

Fiji
Kava Vendor
While you're at it, feel free to also give us your sales and profit margin figures over the past 3yrs. :sneaky:

Seriously thought, I'm sure some of them have done extensive taste and potency testing and would consider their ratios a trade secret.

@Kava Time (and his family) have been processing kava for Fijian vendors for decades... perhaps he'd be willing to tell us not his own secret recipe, but what the most commonly requested ratio is in Fiji.
I would say that in Fiji most people prefer pure roots (waka). 99% of our customers who come to get their personal consumption kava processed bring pure waka. But for most markets vendors whom we process the kava for, they mix root to stump at a ratio of 70:30 which is sold as their premium waka powder. The only reason they do this is to bring the cost down because in Fiji, there is a significant price difference between the stumps and the roots. The serious kava consumers who drink daily tend to buy whole roots and get their waka processed or hand pound themselves rather than getting directly powdered form from the market. Or they buy from a very trusted vendor. The powder sold in market is usually for resale, weddings, funerals, celebrations, gatherings etc. Usually the cheaper the kava is, the more sh*t it will contain like peelings, stalks, flour, sugar etc.

Interestingly for Vanuatu, the price of the stump and roots is the same. And for what i have seen in the past when vanuatu kava was pretty popular in Fiji, vendors used to process the stumps only. No one seemed to like the roots because it was just too peppery in taste. Some people complained that after drinking the roots their eyes got burning sensations.

As for our Kava Time products we don't mix the roots to stumps. You get pure roots when buying the premium waka and pure stumps/basal roots when buying the lawenas. We leave it to you to mix and match to your preference since the waka's are pretty potent. Its a great way to keep cost down and get two sets of kava for daytime and evening consumption. I have noticed very few customers doing so though.
 

Kava Time

Fiji
Kava Vendor
Hahaha ya I don't want exact just a general idea to see if theirs some correlations .
Like stone is a heavy kava but I'm pretty sure it's mainly lateral so after about 4tbsp. I get really stimulated from it .. lol... something is building up and breaking the heavy ratio
Normally the stimulating effects are one of the things you should be feeling before the heavy sedative effects kick in. Maybe you get mentally stimulated from being heavily sedated? Not the kava but your mind playing games?o_O
 

Rick.Sanchez

Kava Enthusiast
As for our Kava Time products we don't mix the roots to stumps. You get pure roots when buying the premium waka and pure stumps/basal roots when buying the lawenas. We leave it to you to mix and match to your preference since the waka's are pretty potent. Its a great way to keep cost down and get two sets of kava for daytime and evening consumption. I have noticed very few customers doing so though.
Sorry for being a newbie, but are the lawenas or the roots normally better for daytime consumption?
 

Kava Time

Fiji
Kava Vendor
Sorry for being a newbie, but are the lawenas or the roots normally better for daytime consumption?
Lawena's are better for daytime consumption as it has lower potency compared to the roots. Its great for working hours since there is almost zero chance of you feeling sleepy if you are using the recommended dosage even for extended periods. With the waka's, at some point you will start feeling sleepy.
 
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Deleted User01

Most of what I offer is about 1/3 roots and 2/3 stump. I do sometimes offer pure lateral roots like with the Hanakapi Ai.
Chris
Ok so that's why I call Hanakapi Ai my "zombie kava". It is strong and I don't touch it still it's close to quitting time. So from what I hear, Lateral Roots provide more potency and stump helps to mellow out the potency for daytime use. Good Thread @Mrbinx69. And thank you @Kavatime for describing the role of roots and stump in Fiji. Super interesting information.
 
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