Looking for general dose "how much you drink regular long-term"?

[mtnwizard]

Hi there, kava and I are old friends, but I'm evaluating taking the relationship to the next level, and looking for general guideline on long-term daily dosage as I cope with a particularly rough patch of anxiety/depression where western pharma (so far) hasn't cut it.... I got a bucket o' woes and the last thing I need in my life right now is to go full tortoise

Roughly what dosage ranges are people using for months/years without large bodily effects? I've been using about a pound of mahakea per month (dried, from a local hawaiian source, I live on the big island).... I think about 3 tablespoons per day? Is that like, "oh man, you gonna get it", "right on the edge", "no problem, drink more if it'd be nice!", .... ?

I know this'll vary by kavalactone content, person, etc, but looking for a general sense of what daily drinkers without effects are managing (and what amounts do produce negative body effects would be interesting too).

 

[Krunkie McKrunkface]

Hi there, kava and I are old friends, but I'm evaluating taking the relationship to the next level, and looking for general guideline on long-term daily dosage as I cope with a particularly rough patch of anxiety/depression where western pharma (so far) hasn't cut it.... I got a bucket o' woes and the last thing I need in my life right now is to go full tortoise

Roughly what dosage ranges are people using for months/years without large bodily effects? I've been using about a pound of mahakea per month (dried, from a local hawaiian source, I live on the big island).... I think about 3 tablespoons per day? Is that like, "oh man, you gonna get it", "right on the edge", "no problem, drink more if it'd be nice!", .... ?

I know this'll vary by kavalactone content, person, etc, but looking for a general sense of what daily drinkers without effects are managing (and what amounts do produce negative body effects would be interesting too).

3TBS/day is a very safe and low level amount. Should be just fine for you purposes. If you want to stick to a pound a month it would be more like 2.5 TBS

FWIW I drink 8TBS/ day and a pound lasts me 9 days. I drink a lot of kava

 

[Palmetto]

I drink 2 lbs / month, but I'm pretty sure I ingest 4 times the lactones as most drinkers per weight, due to drinking high KL powder and high extraction ( multiple washes, etc.). The key is to limit heavier kava consumption. I ain't dead yet.

 

[Zaphod]

Hi there, kava and I are old friends, but I'm evaluating taking the relationship to the next level, and looking for general guideline on long-term daily dosage as I cope with a particularly rough patch of anxiety/depression where western pharma (so far) hasn't cut it.... I got a bucket o' woes and the last thing I need in my life right now is to go full tortoise

Roughly what dosage ranges are people using for months/years without large bodily effects? I've been using about a pound of mahakea per month (dried, from a local hawaiian source, I live on the big island).... I think about 3 tablespoons per day? Is that like, "oh man, you gonna get it", "right on the edge", "no problem, drink more if it'd be nice!", .... ?

I know this'll vary by kavalactone content, person, etc, but looking for a general sense of what daily drinkers without effects are managing (and what amounts do produce negative body effects would be interesting too).

On the low end 4TBS/day on the high end 10TBS/day....with most days fitting right in the middle of 6-8 depending on all the factors you mention above. However I tend to not drink during the day and take my first drink in the evening.

 

[nabanga]

I have averaged about 3lbs/month over the last 20 years, and was on higher doses of fresh before that, and have no health issues. I get my liver checked every couple of years.
I reckon as long as you seive well, buy quality, and don't get too dried out you can go on forever.

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[Palmetto]

@nabanga I am still trying to figure out how important sieving is to reduce flavokavains or other undesirable compounds. Other than the stomach discomfort, is there a proven detriment to getting all of the root, other than makas and bark? Isn't micronized just a more palatable form of toss and wash with makas and bark removed? Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can fill me in. I'm buying a sonicator in the next couple months for other purposes, and thought I could throw some kava in there for really high extraction of kavalactones, albeit everything else as well.

 

[avahZ]

If you’re a hard head, it will take a lot. If you a softy like me, then only about a good tablespoon for basic chill factor. Upto 3 of a heady variety for a small krunk session. 5 if you want to hear the Kava song!

Heavy Kavas I don’t use much anymore. Couch locking is fine when you got the time.

 

[Palmetto]

If you’re a hard head, it will take a lot. If you a softy like me, then only about a good tablespoon for basic chill factor. Upto 3 of a heady variety for a small krunk session. 5 if you want to hear the Kava song!

Heavy Kavas I don’t use much anymore. Couch locking is fine when you got the time.

@avahZ you are so lucky. It sucks requiring to get full effects. But I usually only go for a mild chill, because I drink it several hours a day.

 

[avahZ]

@avahZ you are so lucky. It sucks requiring to get full effects. But I usually only go for a mild chill, because I drink it several hours a day.

I will not argue that. However, luck has a price. The taste of Kava is almost too much for me to bare. I have all kinds of voodoo mixtures to limit it’s taste. The best one was a smooth blend from the now defunct Paradise Kava.

 

[KJ/P1X]

I'm making 3-4 tbs ava and then drink it with my SO. It often stays for a next day (like 1/3).

 

[nabanga]

@nabanga I am still trying to figure out how important sieving is to reduce flavokavains or other undesirable compounds. Other than the stomach discomfort, is there a proven detriment to getting all of the root, other than makas and bark? Isn't micronized just a more palatable form of toss and wash with makas and bark removed? Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can fill me in. I'm buying a sonicator in the next couple months for other purposes, and thought I could throw some kava in there for really high extraction of kavalactones, albeit everything else as well.

The seiving is important just to remove most of the fine sediment, I dont know anything about removing flavokavains(but i guess they are in the fine sediment that gets removed?). As a long term nightly session drinker, i find if i dont take the time to seive well, I get seriously dried up and red-eyed quickly. With a good fine seive, it rarely happens. So its more of a comfort thing than a serious health risk.

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[Krunkie McKrunkface]

I will not argue that. However, luck has a price. The taste of Kava is almost too much for me to bare. I have all kinds of voodoo mixtures to limit it’s taste. The best one was a smooth blend from the now defunct Paradise Kava.

I'm still curious what percentage of people like the taste of kava. It was weird for me, I hated it for 8 months then almost overnight I began to love it. I even drink it at the table with meals as a beverage.

 

[avahZ]

I'm still curious what percentage of people like the taste of kava. It was weird for me, I hated it for 8 months then almost overnight I began to love it. I even drink it at the table with meals as a beverage.

I would bet it has something to do the OR6A2 gene mutation. This is the gene that makes cilantro taste either good or like soap. Cilantro taste like soap to me...

 

[Palmetto]

Cilantro tastes like soap, but also good to me.

As far as the taste of kava, I don't like it cold. I don't usually add anything to it, regardless of the variety. That being said, I only drink Vanuatu / Solomon type varieities less than 25% of the time. My only hesitation is when the sediment starts to rumble my belly to the point of regurgitation. Any kava tastes better than vomit.