I am blessed that I did not suffer any gastric issues from the micronized. It definitely is a heavy thing in your stomach though I can feel it. If you are correct that makes me sad. I'm really fine with the Borongoru micronized it works fine for me and I have an 11 year waka, loa waka, borgou, and pouino ono all just sitting here waiting to be consumed by me, much of it from last year before I broke through reverse tolerance after finally having patience. But if it stalls my weight loss and throws me out of ketosis no good no matter how effective.I have no proof but my belive is that micro is the most effective. Youre consuming the whole plant and by doing that all the lactones in the root. And because its ground so fine, the gut can effectively digest and metabolize the root. The main problem is the extra unwanted nutrients you end up consuming, and for me the byproduct is the eqivalent of a huge steaming compost pile sitting in my gut greating a huge cloud of loud smelly gas
My heart races and I have a lot of palpitations off of keto (also when I'm adapting back). When I'm on keto I don't have as many panic attacks and every little thing that set off palpatations or a headache cause I haven't had a candy bar stops. Lost over 100 pounds on the diet twice and doctor is very pro low carb even with my LDL being really high he did not panic put me on a statin. Seems to value me losing the rest of the weight over any potential problems with cholesterol if it's even related to that. (in early 20's though)I can't speak for blood tests, I stopped using a blood test to determine ketosis after a few rounds of buying the strips. They're absurdly expensive, and I find the urine test is good enough for a ballpark idea of whether I'm in ketosis or not, so unfortunately my data may be somewhat suspect.
Nevertheless: today, was in ketosis upon waking according to strips (heavy ketosis). By noon, still in fairly deep ketosis. One hour and three tablespoons of Moi Instant later, I'm only showing trace amounts of ketones according to the strips. That's actually less kava than I was expecting it to take.
Take it for what you will. I'll probably take a 15+ mile ride a bit later, after which I'll test again. I'm sure I'll be back in ketosis as I usually am after decent rides. And then I'll probably kava up again. If past experience is any indication, I would imagine I'll fall back out of it...
Not sure if regular kava use is compatible with a strict keto diet. FWIW, I use keto partially for weight loss, but I also enjoy the positive effects on endurance. There aren't as many peaks and valleys with energy on longer rides/runs, and I never have to bring gels or other snack food along for the ride, just water and a little bit of body fat to consume along the way.
The positive effects on cardiovascular health and the anti-inflammatory properties of the diet are also nice, though my doctor seems to disapprove despite handing her six articles from NIH, JAMA, and other well-regarded and peer-reviewed journals. It's incredible how old health practices die so hard. But, then, she's not a nutritionist, so it's not really her responsibility per se to keep up on the recent literature.
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Unfortunately, it's in micro version. I bought a whole pound of it because I heard so many good things about it and saw it was going to be retired. I'm not sure how long Kava lasts but I'm sure I will find time to try it.
Unfortunately I was attempting instant exclusively to see if it was a better alternative to medium grind and/or micro, both of which I've had the same problem with. I think there was a thought that perhaps the instant would have less carbs and would therefore have less of an effect of ketogenic metabolism. Unfortunately, at least for me, that does not seem to be the case.
Indeed. They could very well be giving me a false negative, especially seeing as I rarely stay out of ketosis long. Nevertheless, running this down seems somewhat critical. As I understand it, high triglyceride levels are acceptable when operating under a ketogenic metabolism because the triglycerides are being converted to energy rather than roaming the body pell-mell and potentially instigating plaque formation. Coming in and out of keto can be relatively unhealthy.
That's a really good idea, thanks for the suggestion!
On the topic of triglycerides mine are really good (I think it was like 43) and have been as long as I've been on keto which is a known positive effect of keto. LDL is another story. And yes, going in and out of Keto from my understanding is not very good as your body become adapted to using ketones exclusively for energy over glucose and if you knock yourself out of that state your body doesn't know what to do.
There are sugars as well as starches in kava (think about the "starchy water" left over after boiling pasta), both of which contribute to carbohydrate load. I have definitely noticed that kava will kick me out of ketosis, so the question is how much effect it's having.
Most likely it's simply water loss from the diuretic effect of kava, especially if your intake is at that level. Stay hydrated.
It took me over a week to stabilize new diet changes. So I think its a good idea to do your test long enough to take that into consideration before switching or stopping kava.
Ketone urine strips aren't particularly accurate unfortunately, though I find them useful for a ballpark. There were times in the past when I was doing ketone blood tests where I was showing less than .5mmol/L ketones even though I was pissing purple on the strip.
