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Kava Science Differential regulation of calcium signalling pathways by components of [kava]

kavadude

❦ॐ tanuki tamer
Kava is a soporific, anxiolytic and relaxant in widespread ritual and recreational use throughout the Pacific. Traditional uses of kava by indigenous Pacific Island peoples reflect a complex pharmacopeia, centered on GABA-ergic effects of the well-characterized kavalactones. However, peripheral effects of kava suggest active components other than the CNS-targeted kavalactones. We have previously shown that immunocytes exhibit calcium mobilization in response to traditionally prepared kava extracts, and that the kavalactones do not induce these calcium responses. Here, we characterize the complex calcium-mobilizing activity of traditionally prepared and partially HPLC-purified kava extracts, noting induction of both calcium entry and store release pathways. Kava components activate intracellular store depletion of thapsigargin-sensitive and -insensitive stores that are coupled to the calcium release activated (CRAC) current, and cause calcium entry through non-store-operated pathways. Together with the pepper-like potency reported by kava users, these studies lead us to hypothesize that kava extracts contain one or more ligands for the transient receptor potential (TRP) family of ion channels. Indeed, TRP-like conductances are observed in kava-treated cells under patch clamp. Thus TRP-mediated cellular effects may be responsible for some of the reported pharmacology of kava.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25640812

Here is my favorite bit
We have previously shown that immunocytes exhibit calcium mobilization in response to traditionally prepared kava extracts, and that the kavalactones do not induce these calcium responses.
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Kava components activate intracellular store depletion of thapsigargin-sensitive and -insensitive stores that are coupled to the calcium release activated (CRAC) current, and cause calcium entry through non-store-operated pathways. Together with the pepper-like potency reported by kava users, these studies lead us to hypothesize that kava extracts contain one or more ligands for the transient receptor potential (TRP) family of ion channels.
So, which components would these be? Could this be part of why there is such a seemingly large discrepancy between kavalactone%, chemotype and the reported potency and effects of kavas?
 

kavadude

❦ॐ tanuki tamer
What does that mean haha other than being other stuff than lactones doung the effect
That's basically exactly what it means, my man. But it also means that measuring this other stuff is something we should be doing in the future, if it's correct.
 

Zac Imiola (Herbalist)

Kava Connoisseur
I gotcha. Wasn't sure if that had to do with neurotransmitters and stuff ... as I know calcium channels and all that jazz play a role but I don't know the Deetz. . Thanks boss ;)
 

Zac Imiola (Herbalist)

Kava Connoisseur
Personally I think it makes perfect sense, kavalactone by them self suck in my experience/ opinion. There's something more than what we call active in all herbs. And kava is almost the standard example of this
 

Zac Imiola (Herbalist)

Kava Connoisseur
Koda and I were just discussing black seed.. I didn't know that's how it did that!... but we were discussing the synergy of kava and niggella sativa and how it can create a quite nice opiatesk experience. When I was withdrawling from krat*m, I mixed the two and would get a very nice motivated euphoric feeling. He said the Nigella enhances the ever so slight opiate effect of kava. So maybe it is the secondary ingredients in kava that have this synergy with niggella due to the doubling of the calcium channel effect
 

Bwiggy

I like plants
@Mrbinx69 your comments are interesting! Did you personally ever try Nigella with or after kava?
@tomkrat - I'm wondering if you use Nigella Sativa with (or after) kava? By itself?

Thanks!
 

Zac Imiola (Herbalist)

Kava Connoisseur
Yeah I would take the seeds and then toss and wash ( before I knew proper prep) a teaspoon of kava with some tea ..
This would be enough to emilininate for a good hour or so ( enough to fall asleep thank god) the opiate withdrawls I was experiencing ... it took away the runny nose for a while .. and even gave a me a nice rush that was similar to if I had given in and decided to have some more of what I was quitting .. this was exactly what I needed
 
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