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mikeyyy

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Hi all.. New to Kava.. was very excited to get my Moi instant but I have gone thru the whole bag and not felt a thing.. a little heartbroken.. I am aware of the reverse tolerance but surely by the 6 time I should have felt something right? Maybe it was a bad batch? I'm very in tune with my body and was not expecting to feel some super powerful effect, I'm sensitive to subtleness, but not feelin anything.. I'm not sure what to think. I always took on empty stomach and even one time went up to almost 4 tsp.. Little sad, little frustrated.. not sure if I should give up on kava or what :(
 
Steve Mariotti

Steve Mariotti

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mikeyyy said:
Hi all.. New to Kava.. was very excited to get my Moi instant but I have gone thru the whole bag and not felt a thing.. a little heartbroken.. I am aware of the reverse tolerance but surely by the 6 time I should have felt something right? Maybe it was a bad batch? I'm very in tune with my body and was not expecting to feel some super powerful effect, I'm sensitive to subtleness, but not feelin anything.. I'm not sure what to think. I always took on empty stomach and even one time went up to almost 4 tsp.. Little sad, little frustrated.. not sure if I should give up on kava or what :(
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I used to think, after two weeks, "Well, kava just doesn't affect me. I must be resistant." Until RT ended. And then wow, it certainly does.

I would encourage you to just continue. Hang in there, and eventually you'll see.
 
Gourmet Hawaiian Kava

Gourmet Hawaiian Kava

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mikeyyy said:
Hi all.. New to Kava.. was very excited to get my Moi instant but I have gone thru the whole bag and not felt a thing.. a little heartbroken.. I am aware of the reverse tolerance but surely by the 6 time I should have felt something right? Maybe it was a bad batch? I'm very in tune with my body and was not expecting to feel some super powerful effect, I'm sensitive to subtleness, but not feelin anything.. I'm not sure what to think. I always took on empty stomach and even one time went up to almost 4 tsp.. Little sad, little frustrated.. not sure if I should give up on kava or what :(
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I would say that the micronized would be a better choice to get through the reverse tolerance. Also I guarantee that it was not a bad batch of Moi.
Send me a private message with your name and address and I will send you some Moi micronized. (y)
Let me know if you have any questions, aloha.

Chris
 
TheKavaSociety

TheKavaSociety

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I run a kava society and I have introduced tens of people to kava. From my experience, reverse tolerance is largely a myth. I mean, I would agree that veteran drinkers are more sensitive to kava effects than newbies, but this does not mean that new users must go through some kind of RT to feel any kava effects. The key to success is using good products in adequate amounts and in the right setting. GHK instant Moi is absolutely amazing. It is one of the finest dried kava products in the world, so you made the right choice. But perhaps you didn't prepare yourself properly for the kava experience or used an insuffient amount?

I would (shamelessly) recommend our last blog post on How to Make the Most out of Your First Kava Session as a guide to making sure you do things right:http://kavasociety.nz/blog/45879409...e-most-out-of-your-first-kava-session/9648529

In short: get good kava (check), fast, relax, brew some herbal tea, get some fruits, play some nice music or invite friends, take it easy and listen to kava. I am sure you will be able to hear it.
 
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verticity

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It sounds like you maybe weren't using enough, if I'm understanding correctly that the most you tried was 4 teaspoons at a time. It might take a couple tablespoons to feel something.
 
sɥɐʞɐs

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4tsp = 1.3 Tbsp, that is very small dosage.
when i use instant or micro is do 2 Tbsp per cup of water...which by the end of my session usually ends up being 5-6 Tbsp.
kick it up several notches ::chugger::
 
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kava_superman

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I agree with increased dosage. I just got my first bag of instant Moi today and can vouch for effects. I am somewhat a beginner, have been to a few kava bars but only started buying for home usage a month ago or so. I have tried a bunch of kavas and have friends who are connoisseurs. Against their advice I went first with Fijian 11yr old waka from BKH and now with Hawaiian Moi (instant) from GHK and I definitely felt the effects of both of them. The Moi is a lot more heady, which I like during the day. Def very floaty and potent effects. The taste of the 11yr old waka was better IMO but it's also micronized. Curious to see what the micronized stuff from GKH is like. Anyways, I am on my 4th tablespoon and can feel the buzz, so it might just be you. I've tried some kavas that really affected my friends but I felt almost nothing from that particular strain. I am curious (and somewhat excited) to start to make sense of the chemotypes.
 
Bradley666

Bradley666

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Ya I would also say up your dose!
You were right but starting out small, but since you are new you may just need more of it...
When you took the 2-3 tsp...did you sip it, or just pound it all down? That plays a BIG part in wether or not your gona feel alot or a little!
GHK instant Mo'i is AMAZING, I bought just a small bag of it to see what the (instant) is all about :)
I havent even finished it yet because since I bought it I recieved alot more different kavas lol...
Think I will do some moi a little later,but the effects are strong...and fast! It can provide a pretty heady buzz from 2 tsps because thats what I was taken everytime..think I will try 3 tsps tonight...
Up the dose...use 2 tbsp, and or drink quickly and I sure you will start to feel it in no time, once you do it will get better and better every time you use it! :)
 
verticity

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mikeyyy said:
thanks for the replies! I have been using table spoons, not teaspoons, wrong abbreviation..
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OK, then, that is odd, because 4 tbsp is a significant dose. I guess you are suffering from reverse tolerance. But if you stick with it, eventually you can break through that. Some people are not responsive to heady strains like Mo'i during the reverse tolerance phase. You might have better results with a heavier kava like Makakea or Borogoru at first.
 
sɥɐʞɐs

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verticity said:
Some people are not responsive to heady strains like Mo'i during the reverse tolerance phase. You might have better results with a heavier kava like Makakea or Borogoru at first.
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Makakea is a special variety I sell at my store Shakas Makas. :sneaky:;)

I agree with this, I felt heavier varieties much more noticeably for a long time before I ever could properly tune into headier/lighter strains.
 
verticity

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shakas said:
Makakea is a special variety I sell at my store Shakas Makas. :sneaky:;)

I agree with this, I felt heavier varieties much more noticeably for a long time before I ever could properly tune into headier/lighter strains.
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Shakakea
 
sɥɐʞɐs

sɥɐʞɐs

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Shakakea! I think that would be a blend of Mahakea, WOW! and dermopathy skin dust. image.jpg
 
Pacifico

Pacifico

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I recently blew through both mo'i and mahakea without breaking RT. I still don't know what either one of them feel like. It's a gamble but drinking shit kava is a bad option too. You don't really save that much by drinking cheaper kava during RT. It's a different story if you are talking about finding a less expensive kava to drink for the rest of your life. I am currently battling dermo and I haven't broken RT. When I eventually come back, I can can say that I can only trust GHK. GHK's PR sets the bar and we know everything about their production. In fact, I have a few bags of Pouni Ono micro that I am scared to touch because I don't know as much about their production process as I do GHK's. I have about a 1/4 lb of boroguru left and that is it. It will be a dilemma to decide if I am going to move to that boroguru when I have cashed out all of my GHK. I have seen that a few other people have had luck taking Gaia capsules during RT but it's a little late for that if you have already grogged.
 
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