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Gourmet Hawaiian Kava

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Hi everyone, I am not new to 'Awa (Kava) but I am new to this forum so I thought I would introduce myself.
I live in Hawaii and I have been growing and drinking 'Awa for a very long time, as we say in Hawaii "since small kid time" :)
It looks like there are a lot of people in this forum that like a good 'Awa, I am glad, it has been a while since I have seen what was going on with 'Awa in the rest of the world, it is good that there are people like you folks that have come to enjoy 'Awa too.
I do know a thing or 2 or maybe more about 'Awa and I hope to be a valuable contribution to this forum.
Thanks and aloha from the Big Island of Hawaii

Chris
 

The Kap'n

The Groggy Kaptain (40g)
KavaForums Founder
Hey, welcome! Yep, we're a collection of kava enthusiasts just sharing ideas and information. Good to have more people here that are closely acquainted with the kava process, start to finish. Glad to have your experience on board!
 

Vekta

Notorious Lightweight
Review Maestro
Welcome to the forum!

Yes we like kava a tiny bit.:happy:

So umm...you grow kava you say....:hungry:
 

sɥɐʞɐs

Avg. Dosage: 8 Tbsp. (58g)
Review Maestro
Always good to hear from someone with long-term kava experience & knowledge...
 

Gourmet Hawaiian Kava

Kava Expert
Kava Vendor
Hi everyone, thanks for the warm welcome, I hoe to become a valuable asset to this forum, both with knowledge and with "Kava" :happy:
Aloha.

Chris
 

sɥɐʞɐs

Avg. Dosage: 8 Tbsp. (58g)
Review Maestro
I've got a few questions for the new guy:
1) I'm always curious to hear people's descriptions of drinking fresh kava ('awa) vs. dry...how's the experience for you ?
2) Are any Hawai'ian varieties high in DHM/DHK (other than hawaiian grown Isa) or are they basically all light Kavain strains?
3) After equal growing time, which strain naturally has a higher kavalactone percentage ? (I'm assuming you deal with hawaiian cultivars, but, feel free to include others if you want)
4) How great is the difference in potency between 3yr root vs. 5yr root vs. 10yr root ? Does it quickly hit a point of diminishing return or does twice as long mean twice as strong ?
5) Do you have any tricks of the trade to share...maybe regarding best preparation, bang for your buck, avoiding skin problems...anything kava related ?

thanks :D
 

Gourmet Hawaiian Kava

Kava Expert
Kava Vendor
Hi Shakas,
1- drinking the fresh root seems to be a bit stronger and it taste different, it has a more fresh plant taste, other than that it is about the same as the dry powder.
2- DHK IS #2 in any chemotype and DHM is #5. The first 3 numbers are the primary chemotype and the last 3 are the secondary, the primary accounts for more than 70% of the kavalactones so the primary chemotype is looked at more than the secondary, that being said out of the hundreds of kavalactone tests I have looked through for Hawaiian 'Awa (Kava) the DHM #5 is always in the secondary chemotype, there are cases where it is in the 4th, 5th and the 6th position but that is all. When it comes to the DHK #2 then there are some Hawaiian varieties that have the DHK in the primary chemotype, Hanakapi'Ai has a chemotype of 423615, 423651 and some others, (remember a chemotype is only for the batch or plant that was tested, it is based on the kavalactone content and each plant is different, but for the most part the chemotype will be the same or close to it) Mahakea is another one with the DHK in the second position and it is interesting to note one of my kavalactone analysis showed the DHM in the 4th position and that is the highest amount I have seen so far in a Hawaiian 'Awa, for the most part the DHK is in the third position and in one test it was in the 4th position. But all Hawaiian 'Awa is highest in Kavain and that is #4, most people consider that to be the best but it is a synergy of the total kavalactone package that gives you the good effect you want.
3- Tests have shown that the kavalactone content will reach it's max in 18-24 months but it is best to let it grow for 4-5 years, the reason is at 18-24 months there is a lot of portion of the 'Awa that is still young and white in the root not yellow, the older 'Awa is more evenly matured and the kavalactones are more evenly distributed. Grown in the right way Hawaiian 'Awa is regularly over 15% total kavalactone content and one called Papa'ele'ele had been tested at over 20% kavalactone. The more you take care of the 'Awa the better it is, a wild 'Awa is not as strong as a cultivated and fertilized 'Awa, that is why my 'Awa is called Gourmet Hawaiian Kava, I take the extra step to make sure the end product is the best.
4- The 3 or 4 or 10 year old plant will be about the same in kavalactone content, remember the max kavalactone content is reached in about 18 months, it does go up or down a bit but it will stay the same for the most part.
5- I am better at answering questions, there is too much stuff in my head to think of it all but I do know that boiling my 'Awa will make it stronger, it changes the taste a bit but it is not bad, try this---------
INSTRUCTIONS TO MAKE KAVA

Add 2 ounces of dry Kava powder in a sauce pan. Stir in 2 ½ cups of water and bring to a boil
over medium heat, stirring continually. After the Kava is brought to a boil turn the heat off. Pour
1 ½ cups of cold water and let the mixture cool. If you want it to cool faster, put the Kava in the
freezer. Once it is cooled pour the liquid into a clean nylon stocking or paint strainer in a bowl.
Work the liquid out by kneading it (squeezing and pressing) leaving the course powder in the
strainer. Drink a ½ cup at a time, this method makes a very strong an intoxicating drink. This is
not for people under 18 years of age or if your pregnant. Do not use with any CNS depressants. If this method of Kava preparation is too strong you can use half the amount of Kava powder.-----------------

MAKING A DRINK FROM DRIED ‘AWA

The drink is made traditionally in many Pacific island cultures by straining the dried ‘awa powder
in the water. Here in Hawaii, the strainer is often a nylon stocking or cheesecloth that is shaped into
a bag, but I use a one gallon paint strainer, which usually costs under $1.00 at hardware stores.
Figure on 1 or 2 ounces of powder per person, depending on the strength of the ‘awa. Place the powder into the strainer bag, hold its edges together at the top with your hand so that none of the
whole powder escapes, and immerse the bag into a bowl of cool water. The amount of water will
vary according to the individual’s taste, but a good rule of thumb is an ounce of good ‘awa to a quart of water. Use your other hand to knead the bulk of the powder under the water, as you would with dough. If the ‘awa has a high Kavalactone content, it will feel oily, almost like a ball of greasy clay. This is the Kavalactone resin. The longer you press and squeeze the bag, the less oily it will feel and the water will look and feel more oilier. The water should take on the appearance of mud. To get the most from the already wet ‘awa powder, some people place it again in a smaller amount of water and continue the kneading process and then combine this weaker mix to the stronger.
Traditionally each serving of this prepared ‘awa is swallowed in one or two quick drinks from a coconut shell. It’s a good idea to space servings at least 10 minutes apart. Kavain the Kavalactone highest in most Hawaiian ‘awa varieties is usually felt quite soon after drinking but other Kavalactones’ effects may not register for 20 minutes or so.

The only way to avoid the skin problem is to stop for a week or so, that is what I do. I hope this helps, let me know if you or anyone else has any other questions, aloha.

Chris
 

sɥɐʞɐs

Avg. Dosage: 8 Tbsp. (58g)
Review Maestro
Hey Chris, thanks for the reply. Good to see another vote for hot water extraction. I remember Keoni from Hale Noa('awa bar) saying he used it, and, another member here found a study from UHM that also proved it's effectiveness. Interesting the Hawai'ians really seem to avoid DHM all together and try to keep DHK at bay too, for the most part. I remember Mahakea being the 1st kava that I really 'felt' and Mo'i always feeling like just about nothing. I wonder if that's because of Mahakea having DHK in the 2nd position.
Out of curiosity, which cultivars are you growing and planning on selling ? It seemed like 10 yrs ago there were a few sites selling a variety of different strains from Hawai'i but these days I hardly see anything. Are you gonna offer any fresh/frozen at a reasonable price, by any chance ;) ? I've seen another site offering 10 lbs. of fresh/frozen for $250.00 and it has me wondering, how do fresh and dry root compare when it comes to pound for pound usage ? A lot us here use about 8 tablespoons of powder per session, what would the 'fresh' equivalent of that be ?

thanks again
 

Gourmet Hawaiian Kava

Kava Expert
Kava Vendor
The hot water method or boiling method is the best way for me, it will change the starch so the drink might be a bit thicker but you can add a bit more water to fix that, and it is a stronger brew too. I have done this for as long as I remember, I do the cold water way too but my favorite is the hot water or a powder that I make from fresh root, it is like baby powder, it is very fine and needs no straining but it is hard to make this and I do not have any fresh root right now, I am going to make some the next time I harvest a good variety, I am going to harvest a Isa plant soon and that is not a good one for me, I do not care for the tuday kava, some people do but I do not, I guess being from Hawaii with all the high Kavain plants I got used to that. I remember when my mom would tell me about how she would prepare the 'Awa for her dad, she did it the old fashion way, she would chew it in her mouth and then when she has a good pile of chewed 'Awa then they would make the drink.
I have to tell you that if you tried Moi' and did not get much from it, then it was a weak batch, there are a lot of growers that do not take care of there plants or fertilize them like they need to be, Dr Lebot and the Dr's at UHM have shown that all wild plants or non fertilized plants were much weaker than the plants that were grown right and fertilized right, I have had some of my 'Awa tested at over 20%, and that is naturally, this is not an extract, so if you were to try my Moi', I know you would change your mind about Moi'.
I am here to show you folks what 'Awa can really be like, there are some good ones and not so good and down right bad ones, I hod some from one guy that had a burnt taste and that came from his grinder, the way he was grinding the 'Awa was making a lot of heat and it would make the 'Awa taste bad and burnt.
We do not know enough about Kavalactone and how they act as a group to say that #2 being in this position is what is causing this effect, we just have a basic understanding, like we know if #4 is first in the chemotype then that is going to hit your head fast and good, if you have #2 or #5 in the first position then you can expect stomach discomfort and a long 2 day high or longer. The more people that try good kava with known chemotypes and then tell us of there experience then that will help us start to understand the synergy effect that the kavlactones as a group has.

Yes 10 years ago there were a lot of people selling a lot of different Hawaiian 'Awa but since the liver scare and the ban in some countries the kava market was destroyed. Tons of kava were being sold to the pharmaceutical companies and they would make there extracts. So in the Pacific are where kava grows they started to see a shortage so they started to add the stalks and leaves and even other things that were not kava, then the companies would make there extract and that is where the liver problem is. Traditionally only the roots and the corm or stump of the kava plant were used, not the stalks and stems, the Dr's at UHM have isolated an alkaloid that is harmful to liver cells. I want to say too that the initial scare about the liver problems were unfounded, it was found that the people had preexisting liver problems or were taking other drugs with the kava. When this liver stuff happened the Hawaii 'Awa market fell to the bottom, there were only a few that kept growing Hawaiian 'Awa.
I have 14 Hawaiian varieties and several from Fiji, Tonga, Pohnpei , and Papua New Guinea, I am not sure if I am going to sell the fresh root, there is a good possibility that I will, it takes about 5 pounds of fresh root to make 1 pound of dry root. I actually prefer the dry powder over the fresh root but that is just me. This is from my website, it is directions for fresh root------
Making the 'Awa drink with fresh root pulp.
First you need to get the fresh 'Awa root into a pulp, a sausage mill will work or even pounding like in the old days. Once it is in a pulp, put about 16 ounces of 'Awa in a bowl and add 4-6 cups of water. Mix the pulp and the water very well and then pour it into a silkscreen or a strainer, knead the pulp in the water so that you get all the kavalactones out of the pulp and into the water, I do this a few times and you can even change the water and start again with about 1-2 cups of water, this second batch will not be as strong as the first batch. When you are done kneading the Awa that is in the strainer bag then squeeze all the water out of the bag and your Awa is ready to drink. I hope this helps, aloha.

Chris
 

sɥɐʞɐs

Avg. Dosage: 8 Tbsp. (58g)
Review Maestro
Good info, thanks. So, do you plan on starting up a full-time online store or are ya just gonna offer stuff every once in a while when you happen to pull some roots out of the ground ? I'm curious after all your experience if you've honed down a short list of favorite strains. If so, which ones and why ?
Also, do you ever sprinkle li hing mui powder in your shells :hungry: hah j/k ;)
 

Gourmet Hawaiian Kava

Kava Expert
Kava Vendor
Right now I have plants that I harvest but it is mostly for me and my personal use, I do have enough to send some samples and even sell some pounds here and there but I will not be in full swing for at least 4-6 months.
I will be offering all the Hawaiian varieties and Tongan, Fijian and Vanuatu I may not have them all at one time for a year or so but after that they will be for sale on a regular basis on my website, I am not sure if I am allowed to put a link to it or not so that is why I have not done so. I have that info in my profile, both my 'Awa and wood site.
I would have to say my favorite is Hanakap'ai , Papa Kea, this is an 'Awa that I found and started cultivating and also gave some to other growers, then I called this 'Awa "Apu", since then some of the names of the Hawaiian 'Awa has become more accurate, we do not really know for sure but by searching through Hawaiian historical literature and that not, there was an 'Awa enthusiast that went to college and specialized in Hawaiian studies and history, Kawika Winters was able to give the Hawaiian 'Awa more accurate historical names.
Back to my favorites I think after Papa kea would be Honokane Iki and that is it, the rest of the 'Awa is great so don't get me wrong but if I had the chance it would be one of those 3.
Hay shakas, da li hing mui is da bomb, it helps take the taste of the 'awa away but it might be hard to find unless you live in Hawaii or if there is a Chinatown in your area, the best thing to cut the taste of the 'Awa is root beer, just swish in in your mouth and swallow or spit it out, either way it will cut the taste, it is amazing.:happy:
Aloha.

Chris
 
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violet

Do all things with love
@Gourmet Hawaiian Kava Hello and welcome :). I found your website, it is very informative and I really loved the pictures; I learned quite a bit about the nature of kava plants and Hawaiian varieties while I was there. I'm glad you are here sharing and look forward to hearing more!
 

The Kap'n

The Groggy Kaptain (40g)
KavaForums Founder
Yes sir. You certainly may post your information. I'd be more than happy to set you up as a vendor and get a sub forum going for your company.
 

KavaGurl

The Original Kava Forum Mama
Oohh my! I think I have googly eyes:D Welcome to our family and as you can see we adore you already! Well ok..I'll speak for myself:p..but it looks like you'll be teaching us alot about our beloved root;)
 
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