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Preparing for 1st real Kava experience - feel like I'm missing something

ElDudarino

ElDudarino

Kava Curious
I've wanted to try real Kava for a while now, and I read a post the other day on r/nootropics that made me go to GHK and order a sampler of micronized (nene, moi, mahakea). It's supposed to arrive soon, but now I'm getting scared that it will make me nauseous, or even dizzy, or give me dermo, or I won't feel it due to RT. I have a pretty bad stomach and no tolerance for dizziness.

My plan is to drink 6 teaspoons the first time, 2 teaspoons of each variety. I plan to use water at 130 degrees (hotter I've read can destroy some of the KLs), and put about 2 teaspoons per 8 oz cup, and drink 1 cup per 20 minutes. I also plan on taking a ginger pill with each cup. I plan on doing this after not eating for 3-4 hours. I've not decided if I'm gonna try to stain it yet, and i've not decided if I will eat anything (small) with it to "potentiate" it. I plan to swish each sip around my mouth for a while before swallowing and it ? should make my mouth numb. i'm pretty used to t & w'ing various herbal powders. I can tolerate bad tastes well.

Could you more experienced kava users give me some tips & tricks with micronized kava, or tell me if i'm missing any issues that may come up?
 
Blippy5

Blippy5

Certified Noble
Generally people use less water per serving, because it tastes unpleasant. I don't find it reclusive, some do.

With micro, cold water is probably better, you don't need to extract the kavalactones.
 
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muzzled dogg

Kava Curious
I wouldn't mix strains but it won't hurt you. How will you know which one you like best?
I wouldn't swish man; you wanna chug like it's an alcohol shot.
Drink plenty of water before during and after. Not too cold though.
I didn't experience rt but 6 tsp = 2 tbsp = may be a light dose for people who t 'n w herbal powders. You trying to save $?

Otherwise sounds good. Ghk micro on an empty stomach
 
ElDudarino

ElDudarino

Kava Curious
I really appreciate your input.

muzzled dogg said:
I wouldn't mix strains but it won't hurt you. How will you know which one you like best?
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In my mind, figuring out favorite strains is a higher level, experienced connoisseur type issue. I'm just hoping to feel some effects, and I think mixing it up might be the way to go.

muzzled dogg said:
I wouldn't swish man; you wanna chug like it's an alcohol shot.
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Is it because of the really bad taste? I was thinking of getting some absorption through the membranes in the mouth, which bypasses first pass metabolism by the liver.

muzzled dogg said:
Drink plenty of water before during and after. Not too cold though.
I didn't experience rt but 6 tsp = 2 tbsp = may be a light dose for people who t 'n w herbal powders. You trying to save $?
Otherwise sounds good. Ghk micro on an empty stomach
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I just don't want to overdo it with a new substance. For all I know I may be allergic, or, as I mentioned, it might make me nauseous or dizzy, so thought 2 tablespoons may be a safe middle ground. I mentioned herbal powders to imply that I can tolerate bad tastes, none of them are psychoactive in any way, so I don't know if it will have any effect on my dosages.
 
verticity

verticity

I'm interested in things
Ya like @Blippy5 said - you can use cold water for micro. Hot water will just make it taste worse. For micro I'd try 1-2 tablespoons per cup of water. Drink one of those, wait 20 min, drink another, etc. But for your first try you might just want to drink the one and see how it effects your stomach a few hours later.
 
ElDudarino

ElDudarino

Kava Curious
I took 2 teaspoons of Mahakea micro from GHK with some decaf cofee and ginger pills about an hour and a half ago. I had not eaten for 3 hours, but still felt full from a large lunch. I started feeling very obvious effects about 20 minutes after taking it. A tiny bit of dizziness, which I'm not a fan off, but some euphoria, and even some hallucinogenic like effects. This is my wallpaper: http://www.bing.com/ (it'll change at the end of the day) and it looks like the clouds are moving :) Seems like effects are coming and going, but no nausea yet. So upshot is no RT for me! Curious if I should take more or wait a few more hours to see if I get more dizzy or nauseous. It was shocking the kind of numbing it did to my mouth. I've read it's good as an anti-sposmodic for stomachs that are spasming, but makes me wonder if it may not cause gastro-paresis in a normally functioning stomach, and that being the cause of nausea in some people, and also the reason why they recommend to take it on an empty stomach.
 
ElDudarino

ElDudarino

Kava Curious
i ended up eating a cup of sunflower seeds and then taking 2 more teaspoons about 2.5 hours after the first cup. effects are similar. really not a fan of the dizziness, but maybe a bit more euphoria after the second cup.
 
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