Pushing the limits of Mo'i Micronized

[Jonathan]

Whoah. So I've been starting off the last few days with a teaspoon of Mo'i micronized in the morning, which is perfect. But today I did a tablespoon and realized it after I had gulped it down. Yikes. The feeling was not "bad" per se, but I was definitely riding the edge of feeling ok. It's hard to describe. I wasn't anxious, though I did have some nausea. It was kind of like the spirit of Mo'i was grabbing my brain and saying "hey, be cautious, we'll let you go this time, but think about it next time." After about an hour of being not sure how my day was going to go, I started to level out and ate some bacon and eggs, then leveled out a little more...

I think it had mostly to do with hitting the empty stomach right out of waking up. I mean, it was like 7:30am. The morning was beautiful, but I spent less time enjoying my surroundings and more time worrying about how I felt. Even two teaspoons doesn't do that to me, so I'm not sure why it hit me so hard. Maybe I broke RT in some further kind of way?

Anyway, just a word of caution to those who have Mo'i micronized or instant. Measure twice, krunk once.

 

[NAMBATU]

If you had just woken up, you would have been dehydrated as well.

 

[Blippy5]

I agree that it could have been dehydration influenced. I also notice that if i use one kava a few days in a row, I become more sensitive to it.

 

[Zac Imiola (Herbalist)]

Yeah I think there's reverse tolerance to strains just like regular tolerance to strains of other substances

 

[Live2Ski]

Hi, been away for a while.
My standard dosage for micro mio is 1 tablespoon to 4oz of water, repeated up to three times...but,,lately, I've gotten pretty uncomfortably nauseous from Moi. I had some Micro Boroguru and it didn't seem to make me as nauseous. I should probably just back off the higher dosage.
What's funny, is that with previous orders of Moi, I didn't get nearly as nauseous.... I've been out of kava for several weeks now and was about to place another order, just not sure what,

 

[ElDudarino]

i started this morning around 6 with 2 tablespoons of Moi instant. Felt awesome! I've done quite a few times now (well with micro anyway, and i find instant a bit weaker), and I know that 3 tbs would have had me on that edge you're talking about.

 

[Weioo]

I just tried my first micronized kava, the Moi. I've only been drinking medium grind kava for 2-3 months. Usually once a day, sometimes twice, occasionally not at all. My first experience with this was a Tablespoon to a cup of water after not eating for 2-3 hours (I honestly don't know how much micronized to use to X cups water). I felt fine, nothing crazy at all. The next evening was Friday so I had some time off and wanted to see what this could do. I had 2 large tablespoons in 2 cups of water on an empty stomach. I basically felt krunked for the next 4-5 hours, stomach a bit unsettled, and I had a hard time eating for 4-5 hours.

I think it's a great kava, you just have to know your limits on an empty stomach. I love the flavor!

P.S. Holy gritty micronized batman!

 

[Jonathan]

Hm, I must be really sensitive. Some of what you guys are saying, 2-3 TABLEspoons of micronized? That would put me into an apoplectic state of krunkness and nausea. Oh well, means it lasts longer I guess.

 

[Deleted User01]

@Jonathan, I'm also a liteweight. I like to take 2 tablespoons of micronized during the afternoon and then .5 tab of Nene before supper for a good night's sleep. I could probably go with 1.5 in the afternoon. I don't get nausea or bad effects, I only get good effects. But I know I can lower the dose if I wake up in a daze. But it's a mellow daze, no hangover, no stomach upset. Honestly, I kinda like that daze.

 

[Zac Imiola (Herbalist)]

I have only medium grind... but I had 2 tablespoons of moi... then later had 2 tablespoons of nene... then one more of moi and wow... uncomfortable to say the least ...

 

[August West]

Yeah, I've accidentally overdone mo'i on several occasions. I'm not a fan of pushing the envelope anymore. That "uh-oh," feeling usually sends me to the john, and I level out about a half hour after the bells begin ringing in my head. When it hits me hard, I usually just stay active so my mind doesn't dwell on the uneasiness. Two rounded tablespoons of the micro is too much. I did it the very first time. A level tablespoon every twenty minutes, three or four tablespoons total, makes for a pleasant evening for me.

 

[winder]

I've been doing a (level) tablespoon of mo'i micro mixed in grapefruit juice in the morning for a while now. No stomach issues, though I do follow it with a light breakfast, usually yogurt and fruit/granola. Manages to keep me in a good mood for dealing with cranky morning people at the office, effects that hold for about 3 hours. I definitely think more than a tablespoon would do me in, however.

 

[Zac Imiola (Herbalist)]

That's exactly how 2 tablespoons of medium moi is for me... it's ridiclous lol my ears ring like no tommorow

 

[Dth4lf]

At this point, I've switched almost exclusively to GHK micro Kava, simply for convenience.

I just broke open a fresh bag of Moi today. 3 tablespoons in 2 cups of water, 2 shells spread about 15 min apart. Really, really nice.

Nene is typically my evening kava, but if I would like something during the day, I think Moi will be my go-to for the foreseeable future.

 

[Deleted User01]

Hey @Dth4lf, you're reading from my playbook! Great minds think alike. Hmmmm, Freshly Harvested Micronized Mo'i.

 

[aroundhky]

I just received my first GHK Moi micronized. This is my first micro and I'm not sure how to prepare it. Mix it like instant? Strain it like ground root? Toss and wash? I have tried GHK's Moi instant and enjoyed it...I just mixed with some juice and drank. Just not sure what to do with the micronized. Any ideas how to prepare it?

 

[Deleted User01]

Here is my minimalist approach but I gotta warn ya .... Get a small plastic dixie cup. Put a tablespoon of Mo'i in there and then fill with water. use a wooden skewer, popsicle stick, twig, or something small to stir it good but gently. Close your eyes, hold your breath, and gulp. I usually do 2 gulps. Now wash out your mouth and drink some water. Whew! It's over in 10 seconds. Now you can enjoy the Mo'i buzz. I was gonna say "rush" but that's stoner talk.