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Kava Preparation Who has tried the Boiling Kava method ?

Discussion in 'Kava Lounge' started by Plantacious, Mar 2, 2019.

  1. Plantacious

    Plantacious Kava Enthusiast

    I remember a video posted about it, I think Chris from GHK.
    There seemed to be some genuine excitement about it.
    But I've never heard anyone mention it since then, when describing their preparation.
    If you've tried it, but no longer prepare that way, what was your reason for not practicing it ?
    What are the pros and cons of boiling it as the primary process of preparation ?
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2019
  2. Crunked

    Crunked Proselytizer

  3. Plantacious

    Plantacious Kava Enthusiast

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  4. Krunʞy

    Krunʞy Admin

    The hot water method usually just means kneading kava in the traditional way, using hot (usually tap) water between 100-140F. The boiling method speaks for itself.
  5. Plantacious

    Plantacious Kava Enthusiast

    Yea...that's what I thought. So, that's why I was curious about the reason he referred me to the hot water method, when I was inquiring about the results of the boiling method.
  6. nashfire

    nashfire Stay Rooted

    I did the boil method quite a bit, worked great, a little sticky and more bitter but good. I now Alubottle 2 washes w/ 1st wash cold water and second wash with hot tap water(2 balls half full each 800-1000ml water, 2 min shaking) freeze makas and do blender and 3-4 more washes w/strainer bag. (12-16 Tbs of frozen makas in 8-9 cups hot water, blend 2-3 min in ninja, strain / knead 5 min. each wash after. Cut water in half each time. Last wash is basically one shell worth. (6oz)
    Bula! ::aluball::::alubottle::::chugger::::kavaleaf::
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2019
  7. CrunkMonk

    CrunkMonk New Member

    I don't even feel the kava much unless I bring it to a rolling boil where the yellow kavalactone floats up into the surface in a glistening metallic looking flash. Then I shut off the heat; pulverize it in a blender and strain through some pantyhose. I also increase my stomach acid by doing a 1 oz. shot of lemon juice concentrate before and after I chug the brew. Hot tap water at about 140 degrees didn't do much for me. Don't be afraid to boil it, just be sure to shut off the heat when the yellow kavalactone folds in on itself as the boiling kava starts to roll. That yellow metallic gloss is where the magic is at 1:54 in the video. By the way I didn't even feel kava until I watched this video long ago. Its one of the best video's that helped me feel the potent effects of kava.
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  8. recentreturn

    recentreturn Kava Enthusiast

    Pros: its more potent
    Cons: it has the consistency of thickened gravy (yuck) and takes more time (seems like it takes almost as long as kneading just to get the thick liquid through a strainer bag).
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  9. Plantacious

    Plantacious Kava Enthusiast

    Can the Con be compensated for, at all ? (the gravy texture)
    By adding either a little water and/or flavor ?

    If not, how about baking some biscuits or meat, and pouring the kava on top, and use it as a food, instead of a beverage :D
    Maybe that way, you have your "food potentiator built in !
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2019
  10. Saghloqh

    Saghloqh Member

    I think the boiling method really shines when you do if like this:

    • Put kava in water, but less than what you want to end up with by about half (So 2 cups if you want to end up with a liter). Bring to boil, stir constantly for a couple mins.
    • Take off heat. Add a bunch of ice cubes because who likes waiting?
    • Fish ice cubes out when at the correct temp. Pour through your strainer, and added water (right through the strainer) until you have the desired amount of grog. This helps wash off some of the slippery stuff.
    • Knead for 5 mins.
    • Immediately, before drinking, do a second wash. Put your first wash aside, and then knead the second wash for a good 10 mins. I generally use half the water for the second wash (So in the above example, 500ml).
    • Combine both washes and enjoy.
    I find you get a very different kavalactones profile if you go straight boil without much kneading. It gives me more anxiety, but if I knead the first wash, then do a second and combine them, and drink the resulting grog over a longer period of time, it's a more balanced effect.
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  11. CrunkMonk

    CrunkMonk New Member

    After my 7 years of using the boil method with lots of different kava strains I just wanted to say that I never get any dermo skin problems. This makes me think that the dermo breakouts that people have might be cuz of fungus. Boiling the kava would kill off any type of fungus or mold as well as any bacteria.....
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  12. Krunkaroo

    Krunkaroo Kava Enthusiast

    It changes the effects for me that's why I boil just the makas now and use it as a foot bath and absorb the kava transdermally. It's really good.
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  13. Plantacious

    Plantacious Kava Enthusiast

    Glad you got rid of the dermo. And that's helpful for all of us to know.
    As for the fungus, I'm no medical expert, so this is just my opinion. But I don't think it's a fungus. My guess is that a fungus would cause more diverse reactions than the specific ones we know as dermo. I could be wrong though.
    Thanks for sharing your valuable experience.
  14. Plantacious

    Plantacious Kava Enthusiast

    How do your transdermal effects differ from oral effects ?
  15. Krunkaroo

    Krunkaroo Kava Enthusiast

    They are more chill and well rounded, no edgyness just smooth sailing.
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  16. Plantacious

    Plantacious Kava Enthusiast

    Thanks. That is so interesting, because I've heard of other people using remedies, not just transdermally, but on the feet in particular, so
    there is something unique about foot absorption, apart from the fact that it's probably the most convenient way to soak. Certain physical
    pathways transport and travel up from the feet
  17. Intrepidus_dux

    Intrepidus_dux Kava Enthusiast

    I've done the boiling method and didn't like it much in both flavor and affects. Not for me! I now alternate between hot and warm water with my kneading depending on my mood. :)
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  18. Zaphod

    Zaphod Kava Enthusiast

    Interesting - but I don't think that is the issue. Some vendors specifically test for mold/fungas and bacteria and they are all really low. Part of the reason kava is dried is that it is easier to control those things on a dried product vs wet.
  19. Zaphod

    Zaphod Kava Enthusiast

    Yeah, the taste is god awful and very bitter. It for me also tends to make kava even very light heady kavas very heavy. Which is fine if that is what you are looking for - but it seems a shame to boil an nice light heady kava that has a nice taste.
  20. Plantacious

    Plantacious Kava Enthusiast

    How can the taste of kava get any worse than it is ?