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AlexisReal

Kava Enthusiast
glad to be here, thanks for the welcome! and gathering the chemotypes has begun, funny to quote GHK then not find them on website tho,:p checking subforum next.

need to learn my preferences as I'm all over the place buying since last Fall, so far preferring heavy and balanced/heavies and think other vendors may have same/similar by chemotype but not name or confusing me with name, like TKS Borogoru (243516) vs KWK Borongoru (241356, noted the different spelling too)
Hello, and warm welcome too. Just a few thoughts on chemotypes. I am a right OCD case so I take a scientific interest in these things.

But I just scrolled through the spreadsheet again. And from my admittedly brief, 8 months of experience, during which time I've had the pleasure of sampling numerous high quality kavas- when I look at the chemotypes for different kavas I am more or less drawn to....

They can be very similar or even identical in chemotype, yet very different in experience to me.

I adore Kavatime Gourmet Savusavu. I like GHK M'oi, but less so. It is far more heady to me, while the KT Savusavu has a surprising balance to it, with such a chilled, relaxed, content and also physical restfulness lasting several hours.

I don't get the same feeling with GHK M'oi, however lovely it is.

And many others too, such similar Chemotypes but so different.

So I agree that Chemotypes are relevant, useful and important, but by no means rhe crux of all.

Clearly other variables at play. I suppose it isn't too dissimilar to two different strains of cannabis, with equal ratios of thc, cbd etc etc, but very different subjective effect and experience.

Of course, terpenes in cannabis also play a vital role in effects.
Kava surely has it's own version of terpenes and other compounds? Which can modify, even transform the subjective effects.

I am still just slowly learning though, sharing a few observations.


No Chemotypes listed for [email protected] WoW and Solomon. I much much prefer the Solomon myself. WoW is too heavy, lethargic for my own preference. I prefer the elation of the Solomon.

They have some Lab reports of both on their website.

Oh yes, connected to that- the reports list exact percentages of each chemotype. Without doubt this plays a big part in the variance and uniqueness of every Kava. It would be even better if those percentages were widely and commonly available too.

I think then, choosing Kava by Chemotype would be easier to predict and pin down.

Welcome again, @hightides42 and big thanks for your contributions, not challenging you at all btw hope all is good with you.
 

AlexisReal

Kava Enthusiast
g me with name, like TKS Borogoru (243516) vs KWK Borongoru (241356, noted the different spelling too)
Haha, yes with you on that one. I myself got muddled over exactly this.

I have KWK Borongoru, and unopened yet KSNewzealand Borogoru. I was somehow convinced the NZ one was also spelt Borongoru.

And then we have also Borogu as you say.
 

AlexisReal

Kava Enthusiast
that's a lot of work Kapm! I tried searching for a script, formula or something for excel docs to update cells with info from websites and have come up with nothing of value. consider perhaps to update once a week, versus daily, as inventories seem to be reestablishing and even stabilizing across the board.

haven't done edit to doc for a bit, was updating website links last. Today corrected name for Kava Time's Kadavu to Gourmet Kadavu Waka and added chemotype 643251 after vendor cleared up my confusion between reported here vs on their website.
Sorry guys to troll here. Just to add- @Kapmcrunk I also think less regular updates would suffice plenty.

Not saying "better". I'm just thinking- less work for yourself and still totally sufficient for us all.

But then also, I see your passion clearly and if you are naturally driven by this for satiafaction and pleasure sake, please carry on.

Also, I wondered if you were thinking about us all, letting us know instantly when any of our favorite or desired kavas reappear. I could certainly appreciate that thinking. I think I'm the same. I have just as much passion for all willing others, to experience the pure wonders and emotional healing powers of herbal medicine (and clean psychedellics)....

So it excites me to be right on the ball and share what greatness is available, sans delay!

That's all. Sorry guys, had a lovely big jar of Kava today. The blender method with lecithin, really is much stronger than Aluballing I swear.

I soaked and blended 25 grams each [email protected] WoW and Solomon gold, in 1.25L water.

Wow such a thick, oily grog and so potent.
Yesterday the same with 50 grams even split KS Melomelo, and KWK Pouni Ono. Was even more sublime, that combo.
 

hightides42

our Roots run deep
heya AlexisReal, well met! lotsa good thoughts in reply there and as i've been paying attention to chemotypes we (now) better understand they are a decent guide but, as you state, hardly equating same or even similar effects where the big 6 match up as reported by vendors.
while our preferences lean balanced to heavy we've also found major differences in effect on matched chemotypes and often have found seemingly different effects than many reports and reviews here in forums. One thing we have been doing this past couple months is mixing varieties, as you mention above with MeloMelo and Pouni Ono, and finding even better, and usually well balanced, effects.
and yah, the Borongoru, Borogoru, Boroguru (and completely different Borogu) thing had us confused a bit, looking again at chemotypes to assure they are the 'same', but really needing to run with any one (new) variety for a day or three before really determining if effect is in the preferred zone. I add in another determining factor with my kava use, that is how it works with the cannabis, adaptogens, nootropics and entheogens i consume, and how it all works together towards quieting my combat wrecked mind.

ps. not recalling [email protected] having lab reports up, will take another look and see if them chemotypes are discernable from those, thanks for the heads up on it!
 

Kapmcrunk

The Kaptain (40g)
KavaForums Founder
  • Updated all pricing & availability.
  • Kalm with Kava: back in stock
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    • Vula Waka Micronized
 

Kapmcrunk

The Kaptain (40g)
KavaForums Founder
  • Updated all pricing & availability.
  • Cactus Kava
    • All Micronized kavas now in stock
    • All powdered kavas now in stock
  • The Kava Roots
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AlexisReal

Kava Enthusiast
  • Updated all pricing & availability.
  • Cactus Kava
    • All Micronized kavas now in stock
    • All powdered kavas now in stock
  • The Kava Roots
    • Tongan Family Reserve now back in stock
Haha, don't rub in in. Mum and I ordered 4 1lbs from tne great bice guy Paulie, 30th May.

21bs Tongan Choice, 2 1bs Ressrve.

Still no show. Meantime, Bestfijikava order reached in no time.

Paulie tracked the order for me kindly and said it is being held in customs unusually I'm hoping they are just backlogged and overwhelmed he said wait a couple of weeks I just hope we get our order I was so looking forward to this.

It's my only kava order out of of a good dozen or so which have had the slightest problem so far to the United Kingdom.
 

AlexisReal

Kava Enthusiast
Oh also, I got an email saying Kavaroots are back in stock of their Paulie's blend, and before that also the noble warrior from Kavaroots.

I got an email tonigjt:

Kavafied back in- Solomon Islands Kava Lapita..

Plus Kava Tonga.

I ordered an 8OZ pack of the Tonga off Amazon.com, first time it has been available to the United Kingdom since this recent pandemonium and disruption.
 

Kapmcrunk

The Kaptain (40g)
KavaForums Founder
  • Updated all pricing & availability.
  • Kava Time
    • Gourmet Savusavu Waka - Back in stock
  • Gourmet Hawaiian Kava
    • Hiwa Instant - Back in Stock
 
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AlexisReal

Kava Enthusiast
Updated 07/22/2020
  • Updated all pricing & availability.
  • Kava Time
    • New Kava: Santo's Pride Available
Oh man, I wish those guys shipped UK. I have the 2nd pouch of Gournet Susavu Waka, but I'm reluctant to open it because I know I can't get another and I enjoyed that one particularly.
 
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