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Could Kava grow in Brazil?

Discussion in 'Kava Lounge' started by Bwiggy, Jun 10, 2016.

  1. Bwiggy

    Bwiggy I like plants

    You know, the tropical area of Brazil.

    And could it solve all their drug based crime problems, and/or all their problems in general?
  2. kavadude

    kavadude ❦ॐ tanuki tamer

    I think kava could probably grow in places where there aren't hard freezes. Chris and I discussed this towards the end of the podcast we did, I think.
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  3. Kojo Douglas

    Kojo Douglas Kava Enthusiast

    I tried to grow Kava in Ghana, but I never even got the cuttings there. The TSA took them out of my bag.
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  4. Krunʞy

    Krunʞy . Admin

    Being native to that country, I'd say it is possible from the climate point of view (with the exception of southern Brazil). It will not likely solve the terrible and corrupt government we have in place. Brazilians have been dealing with corruption for many decades, only a complete overhaul of that system, may give them a fighting chance.
    Growing up being more afraid of the police than the criminals, you sort of tend to loose faith in the government. I could go on and on about this, but it seems pointless quite frankly.
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  5. verticity

    verticity I'm interested in things

    Probably. To grow kava a place would need to have a climate similar to the South Pacific, including both temperature and precipitation. You can use this site:
    http://mikemcbrearty.com/climate/station/pekoa-airport-sant-vanuatu
    To find places with similar climates. For example, for Santo island, Vanuatu, one of the places with a very similar climate is in Brazil:
    climate.jpg
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  6. verticity

    verticity I'm interested in things

    This is a good point. Brazil already produces tons of coffee, and it still has those problems. Adding kava to its exports wouldn't automatically solve those problems. To do that would require, like you said, major political change.
  7. Krunʞy

    Krunʞy . Admin

    Btw, Maceio is a bad example, in terms of location, northern Brazil, near the amazon, are places more likely to have kava grow successfully.

    EDIT: Maceio Aeroroporto, is an odd place for the chart, why would they use an Airport for that chart?
  8. verticity

    verticity I'm interested in things

    That place probably just came up because there is an airport there--that site compares climate data from airport weather stations...
  9. Krunʞy

    Krunʞy . Admin

    Now my edit up top seems odd, lol
  10. Bwiggy

    Bwiggy I like plants

    Wow. The Brazilian culture is so wonderful, outside of the corruption.
    My initial questions were facetious of course and didn't mean to minimize the severity of the problems there.

    I've read how kava helps people with addiction. I wish more people had access to it.
  11. Bwiggy

    Bwiggy I like plants

    That is cool! Thank you!

    I was thinking they shouldn't export any of the kava. Keep it all for themselves!
    Actually ....give it to the criminals for free!! let them chill out and get off whatever they crave to for a day
  12. Krunʞy

    Krunʞy . Admin

    The sad reality of the population is that 70% are dirt poor, I remember the first few years in the US, what American's deem poor compared to Brazil's population and in comparison, the average American, even say someone making 15-20k a year, would be comparable to what we see as being in the middle class there. It really is astonishing, such a beautiful country with such a sharp contrast in living standards. Some criminals there will rob you and possibly kill you for a pair of sneakers.
    Btw, I wasn't offended just thought I'd give some insight on the topic since I am Brazilian after-all.
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  13. Bwiggy

    Bwiggy I like plants

    Thanks for the reply, @Winpig .
    Is it safe for a vacation there? Single woman here.
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  14. Krunʞy

    Krunʞy . Admin

    Lol, yes and no, it depends where you go. Most people think of going to Rio De Janeiro when going to Brazil, it it definitely a beautiful city, but not really safe imo, if you are a going by yourself, whether you are man or woman makes no difference. Americans stand out like a soar thumb. Cities like those are best if you know someone in the area that 1. speaks the language and 2. can show you around. My mother's best friend lives in Rio, so if you ever decide you absolutely must visit Rio, I can probably arrange something.
    There are far more safer & beautiful cities to visit in Brazil that go unnoticed. If you google Fortaleza, Recife or generally the Northeast Region. Those are far more beautiful and historic and definitely safer...
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  15. Bwiggy

    Bwiggy I like plants

    Ah, thanks. That's a generous offer! I will keep it in mind.
    I saw that there are a few people in Brazil who visit kavaforums.
  16. Krunʞy

    Krunʞy . Admin

    I hadn't noticed, but you are probably right...Wonder if any are active.
  17. Kojo Douglas

    Kojo Douglas Kava Enthusiast

    I think Kava likes volcanic soils with good drainage. That's why it has thrived so well in the South Pacific.
  18. Krunʞy

    Krunʞy . Admin

    @Kavasseur I'd love to grow some kava at home for the shear joy of watching it flourish, but I doubt it's easy, I think Deleted User01 had said he tried, I forget who it was, you are awell traveled person, so Imagine you know best.
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  19. kasa_balavu

    kasa_balavu Yaqona Dina

    If you do visit the cities, avoid wearing jewellery. Don't wear a watch, don't carry a handbag (or any bag) that can be easily snatched, and don't walk around with your phone or gadgets visible.
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  20. Kojo Douglas

    Kojo Douglas Kava Enthusiast

    http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/mauisoil/b_andisol.aspx

    What I know of volcanic soils (andisols) is based on my work in Rwanda. They are really easy to till, have great drainage, and have great nutrient profiles. I remember hearing that Kava thrives in lower elevations where it doesn't get cold often.
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