Strange effect this morning

[Edward]

Lol at you two. Thanks for the tips there, I noticed eating fatty stuff can give you a mild buzz.

Interestingly on the mornings that I have noticed these effects I haven't had a lot to eat after the kava, or indeed nothing. Could be related?

I'm definitely going to try the milk mix and see what happens, if it helps me get the best initial rush/euphoria then I'm for it.

 

[Edward]

Ok so I just had 1 tsp of BKH instant green in 4 oz cold milk with a spot of honey. Tasted ok, very mildly peppery milk with a hint of sweetness. I'm not sure yet if it has increased the effect (over water) but I'm feeling pretty good. The plan is to have another tsp after 30 mins. I'll update when I know more.

 

[Edward]

On the second one now, tastes better with a bit more honey. I'm definitely feeling more with the milk than I did with just water.

 

[Edward]

Ok....... definitely a stronger effect... feeling just fine now thanks. I don't know how this will work with blending root powder and straining but going to give it a go when I get home for a night.

 

[Edward]

The obvious thing to do now is to have a pint of milk in the morning and see if it has any effect? If it doesn't then I can be pretty sure that I've had all of the effects of the kava now. If it does then I know that the milk actually didn't make too much difference (other than tasting quite intriguing).

 

[Edward]

Just had a thought... warm milk, honey and kava. ooh. Not too warm obviously, don't want to spoil the kava. Sounds like an awesome mix, maybe some nene, something to add to an already great sleep.

 

[Edward]

Having a 3rd shell, well I have been on fairly low dose. More honey again this time and it gives a really interesting flavour. I quite like it, I don't know about a stronger tasting kava though. This has been a pretty good experience so far, going to keep experimenting.

 

[verticity]

Just had a thought... warm milk, honey and kava. ooh. Not too warm obviously, don't want to spoil the kava. Sounds like an awesome mix, maybe some nene, something to add to an already great sleep.

Warm, or even hot is fine; it won't kill the kavalactones. I always use hot water to make grog.

I'm wondering what might be actually going on with your experience. We know the effects of kavalactones are long lasting (the half-life of kavain is 9 hours; the others is probably longer). We also know that kava components are absorbed irregularly in your digestive system, and that absorption is highly dependent on the contents of your stomach. It could be that in your case for some reason, maybe something to do with your diet, some of the kava is not being absorbed in your stomach, and is making it to your intestines over the course of hours. Eating or drinking something in the morning could then cause this residual kava in your intestines to be absorbed... It's interesting also, because you are using teaspoons of instant, which is really a pretty modest dose, so you seem to be very sensitive to kava's effects, or what we call a "lightweight" (that's not an insult, it is a good thing!)

 

[Edward]

Thanks for the info. It actually takes nearer a tbsp. for me to get a good effect but yes I do experience at least some effect from even one tsp. Interestingly this morning I don't feel any of the mellow effects that I usually expect to feel the next day. Mind you I have to say I have found that with instant green, it has a fairly strong effect when you actually take it but it doesn't last that long. All I can conclude is that the fat in the milk helped me to absorb all of the kavalactones last night and as a result there's fewer left floating around in my system this morning to give me the "next day calmness". So maybe just using water isn't such a bad thing, it just spreads your experience out which is part of the joy of kava, a big rush when you first take it mellowing out to a nice calmness that lasts well into the next day.

 

[Zac Imiola (Herbalist)]

Hahah yeah Mr marshal Mathers one of the only rappers who will ever be good lol.

 

[Zac Imiola (Herbalist)]

I hope instant doesn't dissapoint me haha

 

[Edward]

Hahah yeah Mr marshal Mathers one of the only rappers who will ever be good lol.

What?! You've obviously never heard any rap in Spanish! Check this out...


Everything ends in a, e or o, leads to some great rap tunes... I listen to loads of stuff in Spanish, I've been learning it for years.

 

[Zac Imiola (Herbalist)]

Hahaha I allways thought Spanish rap must be easier due to that constant rhyming words.. fine... American rapm

 

[Edward]

I used to listen to a lot of Latin American rap but it's the worst kind of gangster nonsense. Now the only reggaeton/hip hop band I like from over that way is Calle 13 from Puerto Rico. Oh, ok, Delinquent Habits... and Cyprus Hill... oh well, you know what I mean. I tend to stick to groups from Spain, more sensible lyrics.

 

[Edward]

A little update on this... Mixing your kava with milk is not really a great idea, funny taste. Drinking milk after kava definitely works though. I've had 6 tsps. instant green this evening, 2 in 6oz water repeated twice at 20 mins intervals. 20 or so mins after my last shell I had a few mouthfuls of milk and it has definitely increased the effects.

 

[Edward]

Maybe this is the way to get rid of any reverse tolerance? Milk to help boost the effect of the kava. I'm actually feeling a little queasy tonight for the first time on kava. I have a feeling I could have had 2 teaspoons with milk after to give me an effect moving up to 4 if that went ok. 6 followed by milk may be too much. I feel ok in myself, nice effects, just that slight nausea which I hope will subside soon.

The funny thing is despite my slight fear of vomiting as mentioned in my first thread here I don't feel the anxiety over it at the moment (funny that), I feel as though if I am sick it will probably not be very pleasant but the idea isn't freaking me out as much. Hopefully it will pass soon. I may not be eating any dinner tonight at this rate, not hungry anyway.

 

[Edward]

Ok, nausea worn off for the most part and feeling fine.

 

[Edward]

Tried again tonight. 2 tsps. instant green followed by some milk, definitely lifts the effect. I had my kava at 19.20, ate at 20.00, had 2 kava candies at 22.00, 23.00 here now and feeling relaxed and ready for bed but bizarrely I can't be bothered to go to bed. I know that sounds odd but I've noticed this before, a happy inertia. Have to force myself to sleep lol.