Agreed.
To clarify, Im not knocking Deleted User at all with that post, Im knocking the fact that there is a pretty blatent (sic) double standard from those few who have done everything in their power to cast doubt on the validity of our tests and the legitimacy of our intentions. These few, even when provided with overwhelming amounts of raw data on our exhaustive testing protocols, go so far as to call Lab Directors and waste their time, say that even the most qualified labs are totally worthless, and even outright call into question our member's integrity... Only to follow this sort of critcism up with placing someone who has yet to run a single HPLC, among the ranks of Lebot. Its absolutely mind numbing.
Tyler keeps referring to the '14 pages of lab results' but does not address Deleted User's reply:
You've made mention of "14 pages of lab results" several times, so I'd like to comment on that. I believe the report you are referring to is the one posted on the BKH site in reference to their 11 Year Waka. If not, please correct me. If so, this report is 12 pages long. Ten of the pages cover microbial, heavy metals, and pesticide tests; one is a certificate of compliance from "Australian Certified Organic", and the last is a kavalactone assay from the University of the South Pacific.
The first eleven pages have never been questioned that I am aware of, though I could be wrong. It has been noted that Microbac in Kentucky does not specifically test kava, and though the sample is listed as "Perfection Piper Methysticum", the tests performed were by "food" methods. I see no reason they are not valid, but I think this is where the confusion began.
The last page is the only one I have the slightest concern about. It shows a chemotype that, while noble, bears no real relation to the claimed cultivar. Had this kava been as isolated as the vendor claims, this should not be. I have confirmed this with experts, and they are in agreement.
He says "I'm not knocking Deleted User at all with that post...". Tyler has been knocking Deleted User from the outset, usually by innuendo. Occasionally he reveals his real feelings as he did on this thread when he posted (and then removed) the following:
Sorry Garry, I know you don't like my 10 year background as an ethnobotanist and my working with medicinal plants other than your favorite one, as you've make it abundantly clear over and over, but likewise, I'm not particularly fond of music store owners playing Mr. Wizard with test tubes of acetone and challenging 14 pages of actual lab results. Looks like you won't have to do that anymore now that you have an HPLC. Do you plan on registering your lab, writing SOPs, doing GMP audits, etc etc etc etc to make your tests worth the paper they will come on?
I admire Deleted User for not responding to these dismissive, arrogant (AKA are the 'professionals') and offensive remarks. I am well used to politicians who won't answer the question but prefer to engage in a personal attack of their opponent. Please Tyler, stick to the issues raised and leave out explicit and implicit attacks on Deleted User. You may go some way to repairing the damage you have done to your reputation and your project, the AKA.