ApéroNoble
The d'Artagnan forum 4th Kavateer
oh help me Rhonda
"50% higher efficacy of the combination passiflora/kava in comparison with the single substances"
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Rookietwoshoes
Rhonda is of no help to you anymore.
Do not resist or you risk subsequent paddles.
Do not resist or you risk subsequent paddles.
ApéroNoble
The d'Artagnan forum 4th Kavateer
à temps partiel paddle femme !! 
ApéroNoble
The d'Artagnan forum 4th Kavateer
A word of caution, everyone needs to be careful with pf, especially extracts. This is not like kava where we have huge data of traditional use.
"Please do not ever use passion flower to get high. They are relatively safe as they contain only very modest amounts of toxic substances, and any cyanide present is broken down by boiling. However these toxic substances include MAO (monoamine oxidase) inhibiting beta-carboline alkaloids such as harmaline and harmine, which, if concentrated enough by extraction, can cause unpredictable, severe or fatal interactions both with prescription drugs and some foods and drinks. Gracie and Zarkov, psychedelic voyagers in the 1980's, comment, 'The dangerous interaction usually precipitates a hypertensive crisis and certain people are especially sensitive to the effects, particularly those with heart abnormalities or high blood pressure. We ourselves have had a few close calls while investigating the beta-carbolines."
"there are so many Passiflora species that no work has been done on that we simply don't know what is in them, some could be very potent."
"Some enthusiasts
...prepared 5lb of fresh P. incarnata foliage and reported:-
'Within about 20 minutes, we all began to experience some profound
behavioral shifts, all of us acting in a more "primal" manner. We were also quite energized and "up", with some slight distortion of colors. This very fun state lasted about three hours or so, followed by a very deep sleep in which all involved experienced quite profound dream states.'
Excessive doses of therapeutic commercial products may also have some effect."
((always examine your bottle to see if the pills are pf extract !!))
"Please do not ever use passion flower to get high. They are relatively safe as they contain only very modest amounts of toxic substances, and any cyanide present is broken down by boiling. However these toxic substances include MAO (monoamine oxidase) inhibiting beta-carboline alkaloids such as harmaline and harmine, which, if concentrated enough by extraction, can cause unpredictable, severe or fatal interactions both with prescription drugs and some foods and drinks. Gracie and Zarkov, psychedelic voyagers in the 1980's, comment, 'The dangerous interaction usually precipitates a hypertensive crisis and certain people are especially sensitive to the effects, particularly those with heart abnormalities or high blood pressure. We ourselves have had a few close calls while investigating the beta-carbolines."
"there are so many Passiflora species that no work has been done on that we simply don't know what is in them, some could be very potent."
"Some enthusiasts
...prepared 5lb of fresh P. incarnata foliage and reported:-
'Within about 20 minutes, we all began to experience some profound
behavioral shifts, all of us acting in a more "primal" manner. We were also quite energized and "up", with some slight distortion of colors. This very fun state lasted about three hours or so, followed by a very deep sleep in which all involved experienced quite profound dream states.'
Excessive doses of therapeutic commercial products may also have some effect."
Please don't do this.
((always examine your bottle to see if the pills are pf extract !!))
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blindy107
Kava Lover
Mine states it's just milled flowers smooshed into gelcaps.
Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2 Capsules
Servings Per Container 50
Amount Per Serving%Daily Value
Passion Flower(Passiflora incarnata) (aerial with blossoms)700 mg*
*Daily Value not established.
Other ingredients: Gelatin Capsule.
Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2 Capsules
Servings Per Container 50
Amount Per Serving%Daily Value
Passion Flower(Passiflora incarnata) (aerial with blossoms)700 mg*
*Daily Value not established.
Other ingredients: Gelatin Capsule.
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Rookietwoshoes
What? Gee thanks @Deleted User . Guess I'm taking the dang tea back to whole foods then. Keep this up @ObiNouekFoNobl and ya won't be able to sit down for days, amigo!
ApéroNoble
The d'Artagnan forum 4th Kavateer
I've already told the Forum Mama all about you Rooks, you're in big trouble
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Rookietwoshoes
Bring it on, kiddies. I got lots of paddles. 
blindy107
Kava Lover
17.8 minutes is the control time. 91.8% increase makes it 34.1 minutes. Is that what you are confused about? Or am I now missing something?
Or are you referring to the fact that stacking them at the same time is a 91% boost whereas, individually administered "combined" effect would be 98%? It seems like there is some overlap in effect.
The problem I see is that even if you wait an hour between dosing either one it's still effective in your system essentially acting as "simultaneous" administration, correct?
Or are you referring to the fact that stacking them at the same time is a 91% boost whereas, individually administered "combined" effect would be 98%? It seems like there is some overlap in effect.
The problem I see is that even if you wait an hour between dosing either one it's still effective in your system essentially acting as "simultaneous" administration, correct?
muzzled dogg
Kava Curious
Sorry to bump and old thread but I thought I should share my experience.
A cup of passionflower tea made with one heaping tablespoon of powdered dried leaves and stems immediately prior to a shell made with one leveled tbsp GHK's Maheka micro did nothing to potentiate the effects.
A cup of passionflower tea made with one heaping tablespoon of powdered dried leaves and stems immediately prior to a shell made with one leveled tbsp GHK's Maheka micro did nothing to potentiate the effects.
We churn slowly, but we're here! Thanks for the tip. I had a kava made from Karuna Kava that had a touch of caffeine and it seemed to synergize very nicely.
Plantacious
Kava Enthusiast
I have also heard that Ashwaghanda complements the kava's effects well.
Can anyone attest to that ?
Can anyone attest to that ?
JohnMichael
Kava Synchronized
In my experience, only moderately. Last night I had a little ashwagandha again at the end of a kava session. Nothing dramatic.
Plantacious
Kava Enthusiast
Minute amounts of cyanide are present in apple seeds, cherry jam, almonds maybe. Hardly dangerous if it is passion flower.